From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from rhombus.bright.net ([205.212.123.75]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166kI3-0006RN-00 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:12:39 -0500 Received: from polaris (woos-max1-cs-33.dial.bright.net [209.143.18.52]) by rhombus.bright.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fAM3CeTQ009817 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:12:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <008f01c17303$6abdbc00$0100a8c0@polaris> From: "Thomas Ward" To: References: <001401c172cd$2f374ce0$0200a8c0@wall1.pa.home.com> Subject: Re: Getting Started Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:11:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01C172D9.81490300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C172D9.81490300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageHi, Rodney. At the time only hardware synths are supported, and = for many reasons they have always been more supirior to software synths = anyway. You can get a Double Talk PC or LT for less than $300.00 which is pretty = fare for the proformence you get. Personally, I suggest the Double Talk = LT because of it's portability, and can be easily taken from computer to = computer. If memory serves me TVI, www.tvi-web.com, has the best prices on = hardware synths. As for being a web server Linux does that pretty awesome. In fact I use = an internal Linux web server with Apache to test and develope web sites = before they are actually posted to whoever's server they will be going = on. Ok, as for making kernels that isn't as bad as it sounds. In short you = just download the latest speakup source, and the latest kernel 2.4.x = kernel, and patch it with the install script. Then, you would run a make config. Basically, it is a series of = questions on processor type, hard drive controlers, floppy controlers, = network cards, sound cards, and that kind of thing.Once done you can = easily type a line like this. make dep ; make clean ; make modules ; make bzImage=20 Then, once compiled you can type, make modules_install ; make install Make sure that after installing your new kernel that you have configured = your boot loaders conf file to reflect the new kernel version. If using lilo the file is: /etc/lilo.conf If using grub, which I like better, the file is: /etc/grub.conf . Compiling and installing new kernels isn't as terrible as it sounds. In = short you run make config, and=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rodney=20 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 3:43 PM Subject: Getting Started Well I am a serious newby when it comes to Linux. I have a donor = computer (Pentium 166), it has a network and sound card. On my other = computers I use Windows 98 SE with JAWS (Eloquence) and a sound card. I = don't own any hardware synthesizers yet. I am familiar with partitioning and formatting hard drives. I am not = afraid of working with the hardware. My research on the internet tells = me that I need to purchase a hardware synthesizer for the donor computer = before I attempt to install Linux on it. Also I am not currently familiar with compiling kernels. However, I = am a computer professional (developer) so I should be able to pick it = up. I'll stop my rambling now and hope someone can point me in the right = direction. My goal is to create a low cost web server for development and = production work. So far I heard that Speak Up may be the way to go. Thanks. Rodney ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C172D9.81490300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hi, Rodney. At the time only hardware = synths are=20 supported, and for many reasons they have always been more supirior to = software=20 synths anyway.
You can get a Double Talk PC or LT for = less than=20 $300.00 which is pretty fare for the proformence you get. Personally, I = suggest=20 the Double Talk LT because of it's portability, and can be easily taken = from=20 computer to computer.
If memory serves me TVI, www.tvi-web.com, has the best prices = on=20 hardware synths.
As for being a web server Linux does = that pretty=20 awesome. In fact  I use an = internal Linux=20 web server with Apache to test and develope web sites before they are = actually=20 posted to whoever's  server they will be going on.
Ok, as for making kernels that isn't as = bad as it=20 sounds. In short you just download the latest speakup source, and the = latest=20 kernel 2.4.x kernel, and patch it with the install script.
Then, you would run a make config. = Basically, it is=20 a series of questions on processor type, hard drive controlers, floppy=20 controlers, network cards, sound cards, and that kind of thing.Once done = you can=20 easily type a line like this.
 
make dep ; make clean ; make modules ; = make bzImage=20
Then, once compiled you can = type,
make modules_install ; make = install
 
Make sure that after installing your = new kernel=20 that you have configured your boot loaders conf file to reflect the new = kernel=20 version.
If using lilo the file is:
/etc/lilo.conf
If using grub, which I like better, the = file=20 is:
/etc/grub.conf
 
 
 
.
Compiling and installing new kernels = isn't as=20 terrible as it sounds. In short you run make config, and
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rodney=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, = 2001 3:43=20 PM
Subject: Getting Started

Well = I am a=20 serious newby when it comes to Linux.  I have a donor computer = (Pentium=20 166), it has a network and sound card.  On my other computers I = use=20 Windows 98 SE with JAWS (Eloquence) and a sound card.  I don't = own any=20 hardware synthesizers yet.
 
I am = familiar with=20 partitioning and formatting hard drives.  I am not afraid of = working with=20 the hardware.  My research on the internet tells me that I need = to=20 purchase a hardware synthesizer for the donor computer before I = attempt to=20 install Linux on it.
 
Also = I am not=20 currently familiar with compiling kernels.  However, I am a = computer=20 professional (developer) so I should be able to pick it=20 up.
 
I'll = stop my=20 rambling now and hope someone can point me in the right=20 direction.
 
My = goal is=20 to create  a low cost web server for development and = production=20 work.  So far I heard that Speak Up may be the way to=20 go.
 
Thanks.
Rodney
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