From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from beaver.sibername.com ([64.15.155.210]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1HzduE-0006ws-00 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:25:54 -0400 Received: from [24.226.68.228] (helo=tenstac) by beaver.sibername.com with smtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1Hzdtj-0001PK-Iu for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:25:23 -0400 Message-ID: <008001c7b054$a3fa9bc0$ab00a8c0@tenstac> From: "Doug Sutherland" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: Subject: Re: My perspective on the console Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:26:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - beaver.sibername.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - braille.uwo.ca X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - proficio.ca X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:25:55 -0000 Zach, What I have been thinking for some years now is that what is needed is better command line based shells with less cryptic commands built out the more cryptic, with some emphasis on speech modality, like ability to have the whole interaction in a buffer that can be navigated forwards and backwards, by screens or pages at a time, or by many other configurable means. So yes, I agree, the current command line tools are super powerful but not easy to use, and much work needs to be done there. Basically we need something other than bash as the shell, with different ideas as to how command line should be interpreted, managed, and configured, and then better applications to run in such an environment. I hope to work towards this some day, but I am starting on a lower level trying to tackle how to get linux into the pocket so its not chained to your desk. -- Doug