From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I7OLj-000842-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 00:26:19 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so1137516ugf for ; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr4023273ugm.1183868777980; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Parham ( [82.99.202.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y6sm59643461mug.2007.07.07.21.26.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006901c7c118$1521a1d0$ccca6352@Parham> From: "Parham" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <01b401c7c082$1aeba200$ccca6352@Parham><20070707180010.GA27672@localhost.localdomain><014601c7c0d3$6bfb6b20$ccca6352@Parham> <1183849345.23024.29.camel@taylor.homelinux.net> Subject: Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 07:55:54 +0330 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:26:19 -0000 Sorry, something is not clear here. If Ubuntu has a screen reader itself, why do I need the support of Speakup? And also, Orca doesn't support command lines? Yes. So far Ubuntu is very good since I want something which has gui and the text version both together, but these questions that I mentioned above would be what I will help me decide. Thanks for your help, both. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorenzo Taylor" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 2:32 AM Subject: Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp >> Do you prefer a distribution that concentrates on the text-based >> environment, or is the GUI OK? I have had much success with Ubuntu >> http://www.ubuntu.com >> and use it almost exclusively. Well, it's my only Linux distribution >> of choice, and I only use Windows XP in a virtual machine to play >> audio games. Ubuntu includes Orca, which is a screen reader for the >> GNOME GUI and works well with Evolution (e-mail), Totem (Media >> player), and the alpha builds of the Firefox web browser as well as >> decent support of openoffice.org for word processing and spreadsheets >> as well as other things you may find usable and enjoyable. >> >> I know I might get flamed for my choice, since Ubuntu is dropping >> support of Speakup in the next release, , but I have had no >> complaints or major breakage with it so far, even after quite >> prematurely upgrading to the unstable Gutsy repo. I can also say that >> Orca is working quite well for me in a text terminal to do those >> things I absolutely must use the command line for like copying and >> moving files and installing/removing/upgrading packages, simply >> because that's the way I prefer to do those things. Perhaps Ubuntu >> will include Speakup in a later release for those who still need pure >> text-mode access, but if you use the GUI at all, I highly recommend >> Ubuntu, even without Speakup. >> >> If you prefer to have no GUI and only use text-mode/command-line >> applications, I would recommend Debian. Speakup modified versions of >> the Debian net install CD's are available for the latest stable >> version, and if you like the latest versions of packages, upgrading to >> Unstable usually doesn't cause any major breakage. I actually used >> Debian Unstable for about 3 years before switching to Ubuntu. I'm not >> sure, however, that Speakup modified Debian installers support >> software speech at this time. It is possible, though, to bootstrap a >> Debian system from an existing Unix-like OS, but this takes quite a >> lot of work, and I had trouble with it myself, and I consider myself >> somewhat of a power user. >> >> As for Grml, I had trouble after installing it once, so I didn't try >> again. It may have just been the laptop I was instaling it on, but it >> behaved differently after the install than the live CD did. This was >> about 2 years ago, however, so a lot has probably changed since then. >> If your question about Grml was can it be installed in some other way >> than using the live CD, the answer is no, since Grml is only a live CD >> to my knowledge. If, however, your question is can Grml be installed >> to your hard drive, then the answer is yes. There is an install script >> that will put it on your hard drive for you with little or no trouble. >> If you like, try it out and you may find it quite useful. Grml is also >> Debian based, so you should get access to all the packages Debian has >> available. >> >> Hope all this info helps, >> Lorenzo >> >> I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. >> --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup