From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from trueband.net ([216.163.120.10]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I3L5t-00022B-00 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:09:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 28939 invoked by uid 1006); 27 Jun 2007 00:09:12 -0000 Received: from sberry@northlc.com by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:SA:0(0.1/100.0):. Processed in 2.826001 secs); 27 Jun 2007 00:09:12 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.4) by -v with SMTP; 27 Jun 2007 00:09:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 22657 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2007 00:09:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO yellobow) (67.54.156.70) by -v with SMTP; 27 Jun 2007 00:09:05 -0000 Message-ID: <005601c7b84f$5bea08e0$c701a8c0@yellobow> From: "Scott Berry" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20070625031627.GC32366@localhost.localdomain><013701c7b7a0$5b1dd2c0$b100a8c0@AveratecLaptop><20070626042409.GA25331@cm.nu><026001c7b7ac$7a18ebe0$b100a8c0@AveratecLaptop><047301c7b809$9b0d3920$4ba65c90@vv507j><002d01c7b813$f27baf70$6405a8c0@ALBERTLC7SN0ZA> <06af01c7b81e$30ae08b0$4ba65c90@vv507j> Subject: Re: Software speech opinions Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:08:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:09:13 -0000 Right John, I agree but have to disagree too. I have started helping for the first time a site that I run software for my router off of. It is called www.xwrt.org they make a web interface for Wrt project which can be found at http://www.openwrt.org. But working for instance with a wiki is a bit of a trick. That seems to be about how 90% (percent) of the open source docs are kept. Now as for speakup, I do not use Speakup I do all admin chores remotely through a Windows computer which works fine for me. So as for Speakup I don't use it but like to keep current on it. I don't know how to program in Linux at all. I don't expect Kirk to do everything either but it is very good to voice. That might just be how the Speakup gets changed at some point. I myself would like to see Speakup in the kernel and user space we would have the best of both world. TTFN, Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heim" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Software speech opinions > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: Software speech opinions > > >>> I would ask people spouting off in this thread to ask themselves what >>> *they* >>> have contributed. It seems to me that a lot of people are making >>> suggestions >>> for what other people should do or sell. >>> >>> Say the best thing to do is to move speakup into user space. How is that >>> going to get done? I guess we're all going to volunteer Kirk to do it. >>> Eh? >> >> You seem to be saying that the mere users should keep their traps shut > > I never said anything of the sort. > >>. In real life, a good majority of the people who use computers will know >>little or nothing about how to fix the problems that arise. Do you really >>propose that these people, such as my wife, have no business complaining >>or >>suggesting because they're not ultranerds? > > Well, sort of, yeah. Pointing out problems is one thing. Complaining is > another. And telling other people what they should do to solve your > problems > is yet another thing entirely. > > But anyway, my main point was to suggest that people ask themselves what > they've contributed to the open source community. Even if you're not a > coder, you can write documentation, maintain a web site, etc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 10:07 AM > >