From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from beaver.sibername.com ([64.15.155.210]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I31ax-00060Q-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:19:59 -0400 Received: from [24.226.66.143] (helo=tenstac) by beaver.sibername.com with smtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1I31aQ-00011p-Do for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:19:26 -0400 Message-ID: <005301c7b7a9$6871c130$ab00a8c0@tenstac> From: "Doug Sutherland" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <003301c7b7a5$d87cc190$ab00a8c0@tenstac> Subject: Re: Slackware: kernel confusion Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:21:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - beaver.sibername.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - braille.uwo.ca X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - proficio.ca X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 03:19:59 -0000 Yea, listen to patrick, "unless you have a particular reason" to install headers then it's better to not do so. The glibc is the crux of all of this toolchain, and the same reason why that old viavoice became a nightmare to support. The distro folks like patrick play with gcc, glibc, and binutils combination until they find a stable combination to build the entire system out of. The kernel headers, as he states in his warning, it's dangerous to use headers newer than the glibc version on your system. You can still build the 2.6.x kernel. There are some situations where stuff will not build, which is why he has the headers on the site, but don't change headers as a default starting point, only as a last resort. And yes, you don't need the modules, in fact you don't need anything from there. Patrick uses ONLY unmodified kernels anyways, so if you want the latest that still works with speakup, grab the last of the 2.21.x from kernel.org. Or be like us old folks who prefer the stable "trailing edge". I have not found a need for 2.6.x yet, so using Patrick's similar logic, I will do so when I have a reason to. I used to chase the leading edge kernels but found that it was generally a waste of time in the large scheme of things. -- Doug