From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from gscodenh01.cr.usgs.gov ([136.177.7.10]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DJaaB-00080Q-00 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:14:19 -0400 Received: from PUNK ([130.118.172.119]) by gscodenh01.cr.usgs.gov (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.2) with SMTP id 2005040711134767-231215 ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:13:47 -0600 Message-ID: <004c01c53b95$292fc6d0$77ac7682@azwaterDOM.wr.usgs.gov> From: "Sean McMahon" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <000101c53b51$4d02dc30$220110ac@jim> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:13:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on gscodenh01/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 04/07/2005 11:13:47, Serialize by Router on gscodenh01/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 04/07/2005 11:14:19, Serialize complete at 04/07/2005 11:14:19 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: dvorak X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean McMahon , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:14:33 -0000 dvorac is how typewriters first mapped out their keyboard. I don't remember the layout exactly, the idea is you have commonly used letters placed close together. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim grimsby" To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:07 AM Subject: RE: dvorak Can I ask a question with out seeming totally dum here? What is this method of typing. Now if everyone but me knows the answer to this a private reply would be ok. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:43 PM To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Subject: RE: dvorak Hi Janina, Because of trained muscle memory and experience using those pathways in the brain. I do agree it's pretty OT, but it is interesting from a cognative psychology and human computer interaction point of view. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:39 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: dvorak Well, it's probably quite OT, but I don't see how using experienced typists discredits anything. I should think it's the other way around. Sina Bahram writes: > Hi Janina, > > This is besides the point because I'm guessing that Igore is already > used to qerty, but I believe those tests were disputed because they > were done with individuals who already knew qwerty? > > If one starts out using vorak ... I don't know: I mean: qwerty was > developed to be inefficient in the first place. > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:32 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: dvorak > > Just curious as to why you think it's useful to learn Dvorak? Are you > aware the U.S. Navy did extensive typing tests between qwerty and > dvorak and found almost nodifference in speed and eficiency? > > Igor Gueths writes: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > Hi all. I was briefly playing with the Dvorak layout, and find that > > I'm going to see if I can't learn it. I take it I would have to > > somewhat > modify the sort of table of keycodes to Speakup commands which I > believe is contained in speakup.c? Its been a while since I've looked. > > - -- > > How many chunks could checkchunk check if checkchunck could check chunks? > > - -- Alan Cox > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFCVGH0Nohoaf1zXJMRAw5vAKCKV1Nb+D88MvX0c5w3Z776pl6HCgCfYPQi > > Sb3Oaqql0wgsnxa+PiIPRvU= > > =JghD > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different > problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup