From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net ([207.115.57.46] helo=ylpvm15.prodigy.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DxX3R-00050Z-00 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:33:37 -0400 Received: from pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (pimout6-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.22]) by ylpvm15.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6QLXuaP014266 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:33:57 -0400 X-ORBL: [69.234.195.83] DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=sbc01; d=pacbell.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:in-reply-to:importance; b=FnQCBm9RGrB97wXfl2C4gGTsGhS+p3IQBgt/YUp++hAO39WAZY7t3QqMjVDIiyDf8 yrzFahz+CpvFDdUk36fbg== Received: from main (adsl-69-234-195-83.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [69.234.195.83]) by pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.4 outbound domainkey aix/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6QLXI9O457636; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:33:30 -0400 From: "Jim Grimsby" To: "'Sean McMahon'" , "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:33:11 -0700 Message-ID: <003f01c59229$a5d74470$230110ac@main> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-reply-to: <00b401c59144$184006a0$77ac7682@azwaterDOM.wr.usgs.gov> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Speakup installation X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:33:37 -0000 Hi, the redhat documentation does explain all of this. Maybe we should all read all the documentation before you bitch. Also remember that the documentation as writing is for basic new users wanting an easy install. I my self would tell people to install everything just so you have it. Like sam says from the lord of the rings "you will want it, if you have not got it" Hth -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:10 AM To: sdawes@telus.net; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Speakup installation Good point, aren't computers supposed to be easy? They really should have info explaining, I mean as Janina said, "splainin'", how to make an installation for small systems under 1gb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Dawes" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: RE: Speakup installation > Chuck, > > It isn't quite that bad. Your type'o has suggested that a full install > is 14 cds. I think you meant to say 4 cds. If you install all source > in addition to all the binaries, you end up with 7 or 8 cds or 2 dvds. > > The problem I have with the selecting everything, or doing the full > install, is that it is the easy way out. Yes it works, but it installs > a lot of unnecessary stuff and uses up a lot of resources. A good case > in point is that it installs both kde and gnome. Additionally, it > doesn't install absolutely everything as it implies, it installs > almost everything on the binary disks and you need to install the > source separately if you wish to. This approach also does nothing in > teaching how to set up a system with only the packages you need and > want. > > If you are only going to be using console based programs, there is no > need to install any of the kde or gnome packages. It is incredible how > much space can be saved when you take this approach. > > Now I am not knocking the installation howto that Janina has written. > I am saying that what it does is a quick and easy install that gets > the first time user up-and-running on Linux. What I would like to see > however, is something that tells the user where they can find out more > information on how to trim down their installation to only the > packages they are going to use included in the howto. A simple > reference to the Linux document page does nothing to direct a new or > novice user to good information about creating a smaller or tidier > installation. > > > > Steve > > Steve Dawes > Calgary Canada. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup