From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from fox-host189.dsl.visi.com ([208.42.144.189] helo=fox.sector14.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16WjwN-00009c-00 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 15:05:43 -0500 Received: from greatmachine ([199.17.219.218]) by fox.sector14.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g11K5iX10690 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:05:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from capeterson@visi.com) Message-ID: <003c01c1ab5b$ab8d6ab0$6801030a@greatmachine> From: "Chris Peterson" To: Subject: html mail... Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:04:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C1AB29.6036FDB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C1AB29.6036FDB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This message is in html to filter out those who are to lazy to read it = for how it is intended. If html mail is an issue for people using pine, or something similar, = then lets come up with a solution that can be implimented to filter out = html tags and, if necessary, convert character sets so that this isn't = an issue anymore. I agree, in principle, that html mail is unnecessary and just takes up = space, but I don't think you should go off and flame everybody who uses = a Windows mail program. (Btw, mac mail programs read html mail too...) Anyway, I've got to think that this would be doable. Perhaps pine could = even be modified to allow you to access links imbeded in an html = message. Thats where I find html to be really useful. I like the fact = that, in Windows, I can press enter on a url in a message and almost = immediately access the page. =20 Obviously, writing a text-based browser that works well isn't a problem; = Lynx has been around for years, but nobody seems to be interested in = using text anymore except the blind community and all we ever do is = bitch when something doesn't work with our stuff. No wonder I can't stand blind people... Kirk Wood hit it right on the head in his message. If you don't like = it, go ahead and use your delete finger. If I don't like you, I'll go = ahead and use my middle finger. I didn't join this list expecting flame wars and people who don't know = how to read all their mail before they post. This must be a blindism, = though, because it doesn't happen nearly as frequently on lists mainly = frequented by sighted people. Perhaps it is because they can see the = replies to a particular question even before they read them. So, to quote Rodney King, can't we all just get along? Or, if that = isn't possible, could we at least agree not to waste each other's time = with this crap on a regular basis? Chris ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C1AB29.6036FDB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This message is in html to filter out = those who are=20 to lazy to read it for how it is intended.

If html mail is an issue for people = using pine, or=20 something similar, then lets come up with a solution that can be = implimented to=20 filter out html tags and, if necessary, convert character sets so that = this=20 isn't an issue anymore.

I agree, in principle, that html mail = is=20 unnecessary and just takes up space, but I don't think you should go off = and=20 flame everybody who uses a Windows mail program. (Btw, mac mail = programs=20 read html mail too...)

Anyway, I've got to think that this = would be=20 doable. Perhaps pine could even be modified to allow you to access = links=20 imbeded in an html message. Thats where I find html to be really=20 useful. I like the fact that, in Windows, I can press enter on a = url in a=20 message and almost immediately access the page.

Obviously, writing a text-based browser = that works=20 well isn't a problem; Lynx has been around for years, but nobody seems = to be=20 interested in using text anymore except the blind community and all we = ever do=20 is bitch when something doesn't work with our stuff.

No wonder I can't stand blind=20 people...

Kirk Wood hit it right on the head in = his=20 message. If you don't like it, go ahead and use your delete = finger. =20 If I don't like you, I'll go ahead and use my middle = finger.

I didn't join this list expecting flame = wars and=20 people who don't know how to read all their mail before they post. = This=20 must be a blindism, though, because it doesn't happen nearly as = frequently on=20 lists mainly frequented by sighted people. Perhaps it is because = they can=20 see the replies to a particular question even before they read=20 them.

So, to quote Rodney King, can't we all = just get=20 along? Or, if that isn't possible, could we at least agree not to = waste=20 each other's time with this crap on a regular basis?

Chris

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