From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp4.cableone.net ([24.116.0.230] helo=S4.cableone.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CkTYg-0005J3-00 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:39:38 -0500 Received: from desktop (unverified [24.116.252.4]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 5953855 for multiple; Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:49:20 -0700 Message-ID: <003601c4ef78$e4aa0c40$6a00a8c0@desktop> From: "Glenn at home" To: "Janina Sajka" References: <001c01c4ef71$f3e96a40$6a00a8c0@desktop> <20041231203049.GC7071@rednote.net> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:39:57 -0600 Organization: Home MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 59, in=163, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.252.4 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: frustrated X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Glenn at home , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:39:38 -0000 Well I don't want to recompile the kernel, but I am forced to go to the internet and do searches for help, and perhaps it is old info, but it does indicate a recompile will fix the problem. Or I found some info on get-cache for this, but I find little help with man on this. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" To: "Glenn at home" ; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 2:30 PM Subject: Re: frustrated Recompiling isn't going to fix your problem, Glenn. Sorry. While many of us were forced into learning to compile kernels in the early days of Speakup, kernel compilation isn't beginner work. Statements like "recompile" and "hard for beginner" suggest to me you're just digging yourself deeper into a hole. Also, statements like: "I apparently need to recompile my kernel because Alsa cannot control my > sound card, because Debian has hold of it," further confirm my > opinion. But, if you insist, you are certainly free to do as you wish. But, don't be surprised if some of us stop trying to help you. Sorry. This isn't exactly a cheery "Happy New Year" kind of message. I really mean no offense. Glenn at home writes: > Why is it so hard to get help/info on using Linux? > I have Debian. > I apparently need to recompile my kernel because Alsa cannot control my > sound card, because Debian has hold of it, but I need to get Debian to not > control it. > I have spent all day looking on the internet for help, and can find non on > recompiling the kernel, some examples would be nice. > man pages are often useless for a beginner, as they are too cryptic. > Any help appreciated, as I am about ready to quit Linux. > Glenn > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 If Linux doesn't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.