From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu ([18.7.21.83]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15YtsK-0000SQ-00 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:34:12 -0400 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA17746 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA05315 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heathrow (HEATHROW.MIT.EDU [18.81.1.213]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA12641 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003501c129a7$4bca9750$d5015112@mit.edu> From: "Rich Caloggero" To: References: Subject: Re: No text editing??? Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:38:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Reply-To: "Rich Caloggero" List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The one question I have, not being a speakup user myself, is how easy is it to ask it to read the line or word that I'm on. For example, if I use the arrow keys or whatever to read the screen in emacs under speakup and find a place where I want to make a change. My cursor is in the correct place, but I just want to hear some context now. Can I ask speakup to just read the line the cursor is on, or even read the sentence or paragraph which contains the cursor? I believe this is very different, and seems like an easier problem to the one of automatically figuring out and then reading an item after the cursor has been moved. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Reiser" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: Re: No text editing??? > Let me give a tad of clarification for the new and prospective speakup > users. Speakup allows you to have full editing capabilities, at least > as full as any text based application under gnu/Linux. > > I use emacs with speakup with absolutely no difficulty and am using it > currently to write this note. I do not use emacspeak although I under > stand it is a fine product. > > Now where some folks are complaining about speakups lack is in > automatic cursor speaking. Speakup tracks the cursor perfectly and is > pretty well always where your cursor is. What speakup does not do is > automatically speak the line you are moving to. It does not > automatically say the characters you are moving onto. It does track > the cursor though. There is an experimental mode of cursor speaking > in the cvs version of speakup which in some applications works as well > as any screen review package. In other applications it doesn't work > so well. > > I am only saying these things because it creates a false impression > that somehow speakup is inferior and it just plain isn't. I would be > very happy to have folks help with fixing this situation of automatic > speaking. It is not a trivial problem to do correctly. It is also > not that high on my priority list because I have no problem writing, > coding, reading and editing with it the way it currently works. > > Kirk > > -- > > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario > phone: (519) 661-3061 > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >