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From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Problems with pdf files.
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:44:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003201c19ef8$92790fd0$c2f20141@cp286066a> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <032b01c19eee$45245aa0$6401a8c0@alex1.va.home.com>

not if they call me as an expert witness.  that is reverse
discrimination.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amanda Lee" <amanda@shellworld.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with pdf files.


I bet we could beat them on the technicality that as persons who are
blind
seeking to enable a document to be accessible and in an alternate format
which we otherwise could not read, is this side of the law but provided
one
uses the information for his or her own use and does not post it where
it
can be accessed by others, then doubt there's much that would hold-up in
a
court of law.

So if I have a colleague print the document and I then scan it with an
OCR
program, is that illegal?  Yet I technically would have displayed the
document in another form.  So I also suppose it is illegal to magnify
the
font on the screen so that a low vision person can read it?  Godf
forbid!
don't change the colors on your screen such that it is easier for
someone
who needs different color contrast.  So let's a bunch ofblind folks get
together and write a .pdf cracker! I'm ready to go to jail in protest!
hahahahaha!  it's tempting because this is really against the ADA and
Section 508 and against other laws.  I feel sorry for the poor slob who
went
to jail.  I'd like to see where this case is documented.

Amanda Lee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Wood" <cpt.kirk@1tree.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with pdf files.


> On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > ....  Key here is
> > getting around copy-protection. I really fault Adobe systems on this
one.
> > Surely, there's gotta be a way to expose PDF text to the reader with
or
> > with out a password ....
>
> There is a way. And the lead programmer recently was realeased after
> spending five months in jail without a trial. He was allowed to return
to
> Rusia. If you want to find the program he wrote it is out there. But
> before some dumb ass asks, no I won't point you to it. The whole DeCSS
> trial in the states is over pointing people to a program to circumvent
> such things. I won't be lucky enough to have the EFF help with my
defense
> and I know nobody here will send enough money to make up for my lost
wages
> alone.
>
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>
> Nowlan's Theory:
>         He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from
>         the next freeway exit.
>
>
>
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
 Thomas Ward
 ` Kirk Wood
   ` Thomas Ward
     ` David Poehlman
       ` Kirk Wood
         ` David Poehlman
 ` Gregory Nowak
   ` BTBG
     ` Thomas Ward
       ` BTBG
       ` Janina Sajka
       ` Geoff Shang
       ` Gregory Nowak
       ` Steve Holmes
         ` Maurice A. Mines
         ` Gregory Nowak
           ` Maurice A. Mines
             ` Geoff Shang
               ` Thomas Ward
               ` David Poehlman
                 ` Steve Holmes
                   ` David Poehlman
                   ` Kirk Wood
                     ` Amanda Lee
                       ` Kirk Wood
                         ` Amanda Lee
                           ` Kirk Wood
                             ` Shaun Oliver
                         ` Amanda Lee
                       ` David Poehlman [this message]
                         ` Amanda Lee
                           ` David Poehlman
                           ` Thomas Ward
                             ` Amanda Lee
                       ` Thomas Ward
                         ` David Poehlman
                         ` Amanda Lee
                           ` Janina Sajka
                       ` Janina Sajka
                       ` Geoff Shang
                         ` Janina Sajka
                           ` Amanda Lee
                             ` Janina Sajka
                             ` Janina Sajka
                             ` Janina Sajka
                               ` Geoff Shang
                             ` Geoff Shang
                           ` Geoff Shang
                             ` Thomas Ward
             ` Janina Sajka
         ` Janina Sajka
 ` Geoff Shang

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