From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net ([69.145.248.57]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1F4QP9-0004hs-00 for ; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:24:47 -0500 Received: from [72.174.29.174] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7) with SMTP id 161063821 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:24:16 -0700 Message-ID: <003001c62786$926f33a0$ae1dae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20060201142351.GA31252@tomass.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: Linux on BrailleNotes Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:23:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:24:48 -0000 there are a lot of processors that are built into linux rite now that I am sure weren't supported a long time ago. If you say "No, we can't do it", then we can't. Same thing with every day life. If someone puts you on a computer for your first time, and you say "no, I can't do it," then you can't, personally, who ever thought of the idea of taking the text to speech was a freaken genious! And, he didn't let himself get held back, he didn't say I can't use a computer, just because someone hasn't done it for me. He got off his butt and did it! Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Stivers" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: Re: Linux on BrailleNotes > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 08:32:05 AM -0500, Ann K. Parsons wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> No, the BrailleNote's OS is Window-CE, but it's interface is >> proprietory. You cannot put Linux on it. You can, however use BrlTTY >> with a PC running Linux. Sorry, but that's the story. > > Well when I got it my pc's OS was windows 98 and its interface was > claimed to pe proprietary. Windows CE isn't magic or anything, it runs > on processors just like linux. I believe the bn uses an xscale processor > or some such which if it isn't supported yet likely will be at some > point. A big difficulty likely to be encountered is with geting > specifications for the hardware out of humanware without them wanting an > NDA signed. That was IIRC a big part of the problem in supporting the > keynote synthesizers with speakup. Without specifications its left to > developers to reverse engineer protocols and such for using the > hardware. Given that we have a very limited group of developers, myself > definitely excluded, with the skills to do all this work and we don't > have the whole big world of linux developers hacking on braillenotes > linux on a bn isn't impossible by any means, but will take a lot of time > and interest from people with knowhow. > > Well there's my take, and now its time for me to work on getting more of > that knowhow I was talking about. > > P.S. if you really want linux, brltty, and speakup on a braillenote send > a BN to Linus, Kirk, and whoever the brltty guy is, and hell if you have > that kind of money you can send one my way too. *grin* > > - -- > "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. > Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, > by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan > > Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFD4MR35JK61UXLur0RA0+NAJ0YeQT8tiHvpm5yAKOoGIRbcC+1xQCdHNii > vn9NT8ryyKR85a97RG4ehJA= > =l/gT > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup