From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.azboss.net ([206.124.164.2]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1B4uWZ-0007w3-00 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2004 23:25:24 -0500 Received: from nu7i (lt.shandrow.com [206.124.184.78]) by mail.azboss.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id i2L4FmL11982; Sat, 20 Mar 2004 21:15:49 -0700 Message-ID: <002d01c40efc$83d5a260$800101df@nu7i> From: "Darrell Shandrow" To: , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20040320230807.15070.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 21:25:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Cc: Subject: Re: Spoken interface for Mac OS X X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:25:24 -0000 Hi Bob, I think the Mac with Spoken Interface will be as usable or not to the totally blind as is Windows or Linux; it'll all depend on the capabilities of the screen reader. I'm not as concerned about the ability of the partially sighted to gain access to anything, including technology, as I am the totally blind. They remain able to operate in the sighted world, and, all they really need is some sort of magnification, which is always easier to implement than is real accessibility for blind users. Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications! Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator! A+, CCNA, Network+! Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Dodd" To: Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 4:08 PM Subject: Re: Spoken interface for Mac OS X > Hi Darrell, > > Yes, I wondered how well it would handle shell windows myself, it's why > I was look for anyone who might be thinking of trying out > SpokenInterface. I was also interested in how well it handled > installation. > > I also think you're right: SpokenInterface isn't competition for > Speakup, it's a different market and a different philosophy (open > source as opposed to closed source). I reckon SpokenInterface is more > competition for windows based tools like Jaws: The cost of a mac+OSX > should give PC+windows+Jaws a real run for its money. I also suspect, > because the mac is so GUI driven, it will appeal more to low-vision > users, rather than to blind users, though I'm sure people will disagree > with that... > > It will be very interesting though, to see how well, and how > seamlessly, integrated Apple have managed to make SpokenInterface seem > to users, and what Speakup can learn from it. Apple are very good at > look & feel (and design in general) so my guess is we'll learn > something of use. > > /bob dodd > > --- Darrell Shandrow wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > > > There's really no comparison. While Speakup provides excellent > > access to > > console-based applications and the Linux OS itself, it doesn't handle > > any > > graphical user interfaces. Spoken Interface is designed for the > > Apple OS X > > GUI. I wonder if it is even going to do anything if the user opens a > > window > > to the shell available in OS X... > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup