From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from gscodenh01.cr.usgs.gov ([136.177.7.10]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DnJpX-0003rN-00 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:25:03 -0400 Received: from PUNK ([130.118.172.119]) by gscodenh01.cr.usgs.gov (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.2) with SMTP id 2005062811243272-98249 ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:24:32 -0600 Message-ID: <002601c57c06$4067ce40$77ac7682@azwaterDOM.wr.usgs.gov> From: "Sean McMahon" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:24:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on gscodenh01/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 06/28/2005 11:24:32, Serialize by Router on gscodenh01/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 06/28/2005 11:25:03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Speakup Modified Fedora 4 Will Be Delayed X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean McMahon , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:25:03 -0000 I'd like to pointout that if you are relying on the naming and building convention posted at http://www.rpm.org/RPM-HOWTO/build.htmll , Fedora uses something different. based on the name of the speakup kernel rpm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Dawes, Stephen" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: RE: Speakup Modified Fedora 4 Will Be Delayed Yes you have answered that portion of the question, but you refuse to answe= r the question about where in the rpm naming convention does it tell me where the level of patching is indicated. You have said that the kernel is a 2.6.11 k= ernel that has a number of patches that makes it appear to be a 2.6.12 kernel. So= do you or don't you know where it tells this information in the rpm naming convention and where exactly it is located in the kernel-2.6.11-1.136=5FFC4.i686.rpm name. There is an old clich=E9 that goes something like, "if it walks like a duck= , looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck." Well, as I said a = long while back, if it looks like kernel-2.6.12, and it acts like kernel 2.6.12,= then don't call it something that it isn't as fedora has done. Janina, I have noticed something about the way in which you answer questions over the years. That is that you don't answer the entire question, but that= you only answer the portion of the question that you feel like. This approach o= nly provides partial information, and often is not what the requestor is looking for. You wrote that you maintain the fedora speakup modified howto, and for= the work you do on this document it is good. However, your howto is only an installation document, and when people want to go beyond the information provided you start to get defensive and call their quest for information th= ings like idle speculation. Janina, what is idle information is partial answers = like the ones that you are in the habit of providing to peoples questions. Steve Dawes Phone: (403) 268-5527 Email: SDawes@calgary.ca NOTICE - This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity nam= ed above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privilege= d. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HE= REBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or an= y of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and = then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if request= ed by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation. =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup