From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from gscamnlh01.wr.usgs.gov ([130.118.4.115]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ATqD3-0002Yq-00 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 17:20:01 -0500 Received: from DAIMLER ([130.118.172.132]) by gscamnlh01.wr.usgs.gov (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.12HF345) with SMTP id 2003120914192819:101015 ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:19:28 -0800 Message-ID: <001d01c3bea2$82ef3500$84ac7682@azwaterDOM.wr.usgs.gov> From: "Sean McMahon" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <.170.68.255.177.1070998608.squirrel@www.holmesgrown.com><006301c3be93$736ae0c0$84ac7682@azwaterDOM.wr.usgs.gov><009601c3be94$4dc37c00$0301a8c0@D> <6.0.1.1.0.20031209170712.0289e230@pop1.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:19:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on gscamnlh01/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.12HF345 | August 14, 2003) at 12/09/2003 02:19:28 PM, Serialize by Router on gscamnlh01/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.12HF345 | August 14, 2003) at 12/09/2003 02:19:59 PM, Serialize complete at 12/09/2003 02:19:59 PM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: shameful confession X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean McMahon , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 22:20:02 -0000 Right on! Php is also a more secure method. I don't know if that's analygis to a cgi or a perl. (a language or an interface) What I meant is The only thing I've seen javascript do is open audio players, search for files on my system, and crash my computer. All of these things don't need javascript. I might be more simpathetic if I understood it's purpose. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Shaw" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:09 PM Subject: Re: shameful confession > > > ... Depending on what your trying to do you could write a CGI applet using > Perl or even a native C module. > > At 15:37 12/9/03, you wrote: > >can you give me the name and an address of a good alternative to javascript? > >If I could use something for validating etc I would. > > > >Darragh > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >------------------------------------------------------------ > > Why do we spend more time troubleshooting our systems than actually > >using them? > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >------------------------------------------------------------ > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sean McMahon" > >To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > >Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:31 PM > >Subject: Re: shameful confession > > > > > > > Doesn't speakup work with w3 or w3m like emacspeak does supposedly? > >Aren't > > > these brows supporting javascript? I've found that if a site crashes my > > > system, it's the java script. For the web developers out there, don't use > > > it! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steve Holmes" > > > To: "Speakup for Linux" > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:36 PM > > > Subject: Re: shameful confession > > > > > > > > > > Hey, don't feel too bad:) I have a dual boot machine at the house which > >I > > > > from time to time find it either necessary or just plain easier to do a > > > > web site with the Exploder. I do have to admit that with Window-Eyes' > >IE > > > > navigation features and commands, I can get around some quite elaborate > > > > sites a lot easier than I can with lynx but sometimes lynx may actually > >be > > > > easier than IE on a few occasions. I do really with the javascript > > > > situation could be resolved for linux users though. The current text > > > > options just aren't good enough! > > > > > > > > Don't get me wrong, I do like linux better for just about everything > >else > > > > but we could use some real help with the web and web based applications. > > > > Chuck Hallenbeck said: > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > > > I persuaded a friend who uses Windows to activate my Verizon web > > > > > space and it took about two minutes. So now I have moved my stuff > > > > > to the new site, address below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - -- > > > > > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (99% of Full) > > > > > In a world without Fences or Walls no one needs Windows or Gates. > > > > > A few Linux tarball downloads: http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7qefb > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > > > > > iQCVAwUBP9YbnzVdG8M9x9tGAQKDKwQAjZLs/e0HosOtTUFp1CaMn/ZZATZxtiZT > > > > > aJTc9AHQEoa2onVfAlVBY1MFMFJCD+7Yid3fqqhKNYFVK6hP8qh47o5/vJL46w2h > > > > > Ef4DVuF0j4kZBErAkLWnqfK/8Qw2N+P5kuutEXDiY6ZC4IyJVKJIybt30Waeh83y > > > > > V/RGnGWmyns= > > > > > =+lbT > > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >