From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from orion.sas.upenn.edu(ORION.SAS.UPENN.EDU[165.123.26.31]) (7739 bytes) by braille.uwo.ca via smail with P:esmtp/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 20:36:58 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #2 built 1999-Sep-5) Received: from karolina (DIALIN1128.UPENN.EDU [128.91.20.104]) by orion.sas.upenn.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SAS.05) with SMTP id UAA07812 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 20:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001401bfbe1f$093cb3e0$68145b80@karolina> From: "Victor Tsaran" To: References: Subject: Re: Redhat6.1 boot disks with Speakup don't seem to work withDoubleTalkLT Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:29:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Id: So , perhaps what I have to do is to look into RedHat reference manual and see if there is a way to make syslinux talk at the bot. Right? Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Redhat6.1 boot disks with Speakup don't seem to work withDoubleTalkLT > Hi there Victor > > Well yes this is what I am talking about. However the redhat boot disks > use syslinux instead of lilo as there boot loader. > > I haven't gotten a chance to work on the slackware bootdisks with the > talking lilo yet. > > FC > > > On Sun, 14 May 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 02:00:47 -0700 > > From: Victor Tsaran > > Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: Re: Redhat6.1 boot disks with Speakup don't seem to work > > withDoubleTalkLT > > > > Actually, I once succedded to have LILO talk on a Redhat system. is that the > > trestriction you speak of? > > Regards, > > Vic > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:58 AM > > Subject: Re: Redhat6.1 boot disks with Speakup don't seem to work > > withDoubleTalkLT > > > > > > > Vic > > > I think I know what your problem is. It won't be fixed by the > > > speakup_ser variable. If it would be fixed by the speakup_ser kernel > > > parameter you would type "text speakup_ser=0" because you are using com1, > > > which is ttyS0. > > > > > > I am going to guess that you have the problem with these machines that I > > > have with lots of machines that I get my hands on. If you can wait until > > > later on this weekend sometime I will try to build some speakup slackware > > > bootdisks with the talking lilo prompt. I have found that on at least one > > > system this has solved the detection of serial synths problem. > > > > > > The issue is that the uarts aren't awake until data gets sent through > > > them. Don't ask me why because I have no freekin idea. All I can tell > > > you is that this baffled me for about four months until I started really > > > understanding there behavior. This took that long for me to really see > > > what was going on. I couldn't narrow it down because of all of the > > > variables. I think that we are going to need to come up with a fix for > > > these problems at the speakup level but for now this is a fix. > > > > > > I can't make redhat do this because it uses syslinux and I don't think > > > that you can use the serial port terminal with this boot loader. Someone > > > please correct me if I am in error on this one. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > FC > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 12 May 2000, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:27:34 -0400 (EDT) > > > > From: Janina Sajka > > > > Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > Subject: Re: Redhat6.1 boot disks with Speakup don't seem to work > > > > withDoubleTalk LT > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Voictor: > > > > > > > > At the boot prompt, when you're booting from the ltlkb floppy image you > > > > need to type all of the following on one line before pressing enter: > > > > > > > > text speakup_ser=1 > > > > > > > > At least, that's what uncorked the genie in my bottle. Your mileage may > > > > vary, but it sounds like you didn't give the speakup variable a go. > > > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > > > On Thu, 11 May 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote: > > > > > > > > > Janina, I did what you suggested, but nothing works still. Here is > > what I > > > > > did: > > > > > > > > > > downloaded ltlkb.bin > > > > > > > > > > with rawrite copied it onto an empty floppy. > > > > > Connected Doubletalk LT to com1, both machines are desktops, BTW. > > > > > Reboot computer, prompt comes up. I type > > > > > > > > > > text > > > > > > > > > > The booting process proceeds as if there is no speakup built-in. > > > > > Do you have any other suggestions? > > > > > Vic > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Janina Sajka" > > > > > To: > > > > > Cc: > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 1:13 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Redhat6.1 boot disks with Speakup don't seem to work > > > > > withDoubleTalk LT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vic: > > > > > > > > > > > > I had the same problem with my IBM Thinkpad 560Z. > > > > > > > > > > > > The issue turned out to be that the serial port on the backplane of > > the > > > > > > Thinkpad was being seen by Linux as ttyS1. Seems the irda port on > > the > > > > > > front plane is ttyS0. So, the fix was to add the following at the > > boot > > > > > > prompt: > > > > > > > > > > > > speakup_ser=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > so my boot prompt response became: > > > > > > > > > > > > text speakup_ser=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > That did it. > > > > > > On Thu, 11 May 2000, Victor Tsaran > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I downloaded the boot disk for RedHat6.1, ltlkb.bin, and copied it > > onto > > > > > a > > > > > > > floppy. I tried it on two machines and in both cases the machines > > > > > booted, but > > > > > > > no speech ever came up. Anyone have an idea why this behavior? > > > > > > > Vic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup