From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from spaceymail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (lax-green-bigip-5.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6731710B36 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tdsportable (75-171-203-47.hlrn.qwest.net [75.171.203.47]) by spaceymail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC41161AF6 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001301c903bc$797ab670$4200a8c0@tdsportable> From: "Tyler Littlefield" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <001401c90316$ab461330$4200a8c0@tdsportable><20080820232350.GA11772@localhost.localdomain><48AD3F04.3050904@baechler.net> <20080821182426.GA24214@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: ssh access, was: Re: software speech Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:33:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:31:53 -0000 >indeed the case. However, if you're interacting with >another system on >your home LAN, (which I believe is what Tyler is >doing), then my >previous statements do stand, ssh access from gnu/linux >is indeed >seamless in that case, speakup keyboard echo, and all. it is; I am sshing from grml to my box now, and it's flying. works like a pro. Thanks, ~~TheCreator~~ Visit TDS for quality software and website production http://tysdomain.com visit the piratecafe for programming related resources: http://piratecafe.net msn: tyler@tysdomain.com skype: st8amnd127 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: ssh access, was: Re: software speech > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 03:10:12AM -0700, Tony Baechler wrote: >> The problem is >> Windows, not the ssh client. > > Yes, I'd agree. Specifically, the way I see it, the problem is using a > text interface inside of a GUI interface, with a GUI screen > reader. Ssh access for me at least, was lots better under a dosbox > with the provox screen reader using win98, than it is nowadays in xp, > regardless of if I'm using a ssh client via the cmd.exe xp command > prompt, or using udf8 teratermpro, both via wineyes in my case. > >> The problem I run into >> is that a GUI environment doesn't do well at handling console apps, >> specifically GUI screen readers don't do well with command prompts or >> text-based programs such as the Cygwin ssh client, telnet, etc. > > I'd definitely second that. > >> I >> wouldn't quite go so far as to say that access from Linux to another >> Linux system is seemless, but it's a lot better than going through >> Windows. I've noticed that the Speakup keyboard echo is slightly less >> responsive with ssh but I can certainly live with it. > > Maybe I should've qualified my previous statements. If you're > interacting with a system at a remote location, what you describe is > indeed the case. However, if you're interacting with another system on > your home LAN, (which I believe is what Tyler is doing), then my > previous statements do stand, ssh access from gnu/linux is indeed > seamless in that case, speakup keyboard echo, and all. > > Greg > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkitstoACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyA8GgCcCXwDFhIuqIms1uNaJ+gmEIL2 > 9EoAn2yNeivEMChCPpTRxt+IRXAgICY+ > =eopg > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > __________ NOD32 3375 (20080821) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >