From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from fe5.southeast.rr.com ([24.93.67.52] helo=mail5.ec.rr.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 178vcd-00010n-00 for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 00:15:11 -0400 Received: from kids ([66.56.241.175]) by mail5.ec.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sat, 18 May 2002 00:15:13 -0400 Message-ID: <000f01c1fe22$bffda9a0$ab00a8c0@ec.rr.com> From: "Cecil H. Whitley" To: References: <000d01c1fdd9$cbb127c0$02263e18@mycomputer> <05e101c1fdf2$107ec160$6401a8c0@6S4X011> <003901c1fe03$43985be0$ab00a8c0@ec.rr.com> <20020517193435.B10610@romualt.dhs.org> <02e601c1fe17$1a8bd880$6449e9d5@microsoft.com> <200205172358080880.00F6C612@mail.screenreview.org> Subject: Re: possible sollution Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 00:16:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, A group of researchers here accepted a public challenge to "crack" the cgmi watermarking. They were threatened with legal action when they went to present their research at a convention. Eventually they got to present their research, but it was a painfull process. Details can be found at www.eff.org. Given the "homelands security act", the dmca and the reluctance of the court to intervene, i'm not sure that you can't get in trouble here for "just talking" about something anymore. That, in and of itself is a sad commentary on the state of affairs. Regards, Cecil ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian Moore" To: Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Re: possible sollution > our copy right laws in Canada are not significantly different in many > respects than those in the u.s. this is one of my gripes with > bookshare abut that is a separate issue. we have the same provisions > which allow for alternate format distribution but we still can't get > access. > > I am no copy right lawyer but I would suspect that discussing how one > might by pass a copy protection system is not strictly illegal, it > might attract some unwanted attention. > > Brian. > > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 5/18/02 at 5:50 AM Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > >Is illegal in Canada to speak about cracks? > >To speak, not to crack. > > > >Thank you for information. > >Teddy, > >orasnita@home.ro > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gregory Nowak" > >To: > >Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 3:34 AM > >Subject: Re: possible sollution > > > > > >I agree. However, this list is on a machine in Canada. So ... Of > course, I > >don't know what the differences in such laws are between the 2 > countries. > >Greg > > > > > >On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 08:30:51PM -0400, Cecil H. Whitley wrote: > >> *snip* > >> > >> > Hey Igor, > >> > What you may want to look at is just doing a dump *snip* > >> > >> Can you please cease and desist with this on this list? After all, > there > >is > >> a DMCA for us here in the u.s. This thread is quite possibly over > the > >line > >> of what is legal within this country. I for one do not wish to see > this > >> list banned and the site blocked and I assume that either or both > could > >> occur within the u.s. Your cooperation is appreciated. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Cecil Whitley > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup