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From: "nick G" <Nick6489@andrelouis.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: x and gnopernicus
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:29:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000e01c4fa80$2be67d20$cc00a8c0@nickysp4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050114150211.GB7476@rednote.net>

NOt necessarily.  My father, who has used various flavers of Windows and the
Macintosh, immediately new where to click the first time he saw Gnome when I
installed fC1 almost a year ago.  He knew that FC1 was a redhat product, so
he guessed, and guessed corectly, that clicking on the hat would get him
into the gnome menu, based on the Apple in the macintosh.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: x and gnopernicus


One thing I learned to my chagrin some time ago is that many, I dare say
most, sighted users are initially very uncomfortable around the Linux
GUI. They expect to see certain things based on their experience of
Windows, and those things aren't there on Linux. For example, there's no
"start" button. And, who would guess to click on "the foot?"

I don't have an answer, but it is a problem to be noted.

Kenny Hitt writes:
> Hi.  Did you try using alt-f2 to open the run dialog?  Is the sighted
> user helping you a Gnome user?  I have to ask because there isn't an
> icon label applications on my Debian systems.  To access the
> applications menu, you click on the Gnome foot icon.  That icon is
> usually on a pannel instead of your desktop.
> I still do admin tasks from the text console instead of a Gnome session.
> I could probably do some things in Gnome, but speakup is better access
> and faster.
>
> Hope this helps.
>           Kenny
>
> On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 11:07:19AM -0500, Eric Kosten wrote:
> > Dear list members:
> > It was suggested to me that I consult with Kenny Hitt on this.
> >     Kenny, or anyone else, I some how messed up the root desktop so that
> > according to a sighted friend, three icons appear roots home, computer,
and
> > recycled.  He does not see the application menu to select run program
and
> > thus gnopernicus. We also had to enable assistive technology items here.
I
> > should add that it worked the first time, when we logged out we said
"save
> > setting equaled choice of yes".
> >     Now, I created another user, logged in, enabled assistive
technology,
> > and ran gnopernicus.  Now, the admin tools freezes things for quite
awhile
> > but I can't tell if they come up.  by admin, if memery serves me, server
> > tools like http, task manager etc.
> > Need help fixing root account, and this seemingly problem/not a problem
> > thing.
> > thanks
> > Eric (someone who reads a lot on linux and is still trying to figure it
out)
> > p.s. speakup is running during this time providing terminal e.g. consul
> > speech.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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--

Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.


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