From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from spaceymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (lax-green-bigip-5.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC3A10A40 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tdsportable (75-171-198-241.hlrn.qwest.net [75.171.198.241]) by spaceymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3AFEE36C for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000b01c8e54f$9fe98ec0$4200a8c0@tdsportable> From: "Tyler Littlefield" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <095e3c09-7068-4360-a344-0bb1c6146f7d@default> <20080714010540.GA19956@clearwire.net> Subject: Re: Best distro Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:19:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:20:14 -0000 >Debian still doesn't support SpeakUP, someone has some research to do: http://people.debian.org/~shane As for the rest, ubunu is built off debian, so if ubuntu supports speakup but debian doesn't, we've got a problem. I like debian, because of it's package management, and it's ease of use--others like slack and gentu etc, but you've got to compile everything--there are some precompiled packages I think, but debian is a simple apt-get install in most cases. Last time I had to install a package on fedora, I had to go find it's dependents dependents dependents dependents great ancestors off in some far away web page, which required some more dependence dependences be located, and so on. Thanks, ~~TheCreator~~ Visit TDS for quality software and website production http://tysdomain.com visit the piratecafe for programming related resources: http://piratecafe.net msn: tyler@tysdomain.com skype: st8amnd127 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Foreign White Devil" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Best distro > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 03:34:17PM -0700, DON.RAIKES@ORACLE.COM wrote: >> I realize I am probably starting a feud, but what are the pros and cons > > Fedora and Ubuntu are probably the easiest for getting started > in Linux. Debian still doesn't support SpeakUP, and for the foreseeable > next three years, probably still won't, and the others are more > difficult to use and learn. Fedora is Redhat based as far as their > package manager (the ability to add/remove programs) and is probably the > more popular, while Ubuntu uses the Debian package manager, which in my > opinion is the superior product (unless Fedora has improved their older > practices, and I think they have). There's probably just a tad more > support for Fedora, but don't quote me on it. I'm still sticking with > Debian, myself, for the bug-tracking system, the package manager, and > their ideals to never release crap, even if it means releasing nothing > at all. download and try the Live-CD's, which allow you to try each > distro before deciding on the one that suits. They run in memory and > don't change your current operating system. Hang out in the > irc.freenode.net chatrooms and see which impresses you the most. You > can tell alot about a distro by the users running it and what help they > generally provide. You'll probably be visiting them alot as you learn > your way around the system. I would recommend trying the Fedora and > Ubuntu Live-CD's, see how well written and helpful they are as far as > documentation and ease of setup goes, and pick one or the other of the > two. It is going to be an adventure as you learn, and you'll likely go > back and make many changes to how you want things set up, especially > where disk partitioning is concerned, and kept data. I like my home or > user directories separate, so daya I've collected is still there if I > need to reinstall from scratch or decide to ditch everything for > another distro. YMMV, but Fedora and Ubuntu will give you the fullest > of all possible setup options and software selections of the latest and > greatest stuff. All the other distros are mainly offshoots of Redhat, > Debian, BSD, SuSE, and Slackware, each being noted mainly for their > method of package or software management. I don't recommend the last > three, as their package management methods and software selection sucks > by comparison to the first two. Redhat/Fedora will probably provide the > most support, and while Debian/Ubuntu fixes the bugs quicker, Debian > (not Ubuntu) takes forever to add support for newer software. HTH, > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > __________ NOD32 3263 (20080711) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >