From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 66-197-195-53.hostnoc.net ([66.197.195.53] helo=mainserver.shaned.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1HEdvy-0004dj-00 for ; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:57:26 -0500 Received: from ip-206-123-194-13.static.fasttrackcomm.net ([206.123.194.13] helo=development) by mainserver.shaned.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HEdvv-00085a-P4 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:57:24 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01c74a6b$eaa0a0a0$6401a8c0@development> From: "Littlefield, tyler" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <005a01c74a63$76cccee0$6401a8c0@development> <45C94881.6090904@proficio.ca> Subject: Re: slightly o-t, looking for os help Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 20:56:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mainserver.shaned.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - braille.uwo.ca X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gmail.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Littlefield, tyler" , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:57:26 -0000 rofl, I'll talk my grandma into giving me some pizza... Last thing, I've been trying to mount my floppy, mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy, no go, fdisk /dev/fd0 won't work either... I'm lost as to where the floppy drive is...? Thanks for the help, Tyler Littlefield Unlimited horizons head coder. check out our website: tysplace.homelinux.net msn: compgeek134@hotmail.com aim: st8amnd2005 skype: st8amnd127 ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Sutherland To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:33 PM Subject: Re: slightly o-t, looking for os help > If you are building an os for fun, it might be good to use > an emulator rather than physical hardware. There are > many around for example bochs will emulate the x86 > hardware, and there are others for ARM and countless > other architectures. > > On x86 the BIOS will expect a bootloader in a the first > sector of the first fixed drive. Then it does a bootloader > chain from there to other bootloaders (ie linux lilo can > boot initially then point to ntloader which loads windows). > You have source available for various x86 bootloaders > like lilo, grub, etc to peruse. > > On embedded systems there is fixed flash hardware > and you can look at the source for u-boot, redboot, > and many others. > > If you have not tried the linuxfromscratch exercise, > that is very interesting, especially to understand how > linux and the whole GNU toolchain works. > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ > > The way toolchains work for embedded is very much > like the linuxfromscratch, except building smaller > using tiny libraries (uclibc, newlib etc) and tiny > executables (busybox and the like) and building for > a different target architecture. There is something > called crosstool to assist in building toolchains for > different architectures. If its all for fun you could > for example build an ARM toolchain and load onto > virtual hardware (emulator) and it would be just > like loading onto a PDA or phone. > > Just playing with linuxfromscratch can keep one busy > for some time, getting into cross development tools > can keep one busy for a very long time. Building your > own OS from scratch, perhaps you should get someone > to slide pizza under the door every once in a while :) > > -- Doug > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup