From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ylpvm43-ext.prodigy.net ([207.115.57.74] helo=ylpvm43.prodigy.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DSMc1-0005MZ-00 for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:08:29 -0400 Received: from pimout7-ext.prodigy.net (pimout7-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.58]) by ylpvm43.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j41M8WYJ030337 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:08:32 -0400 X-ORBL: [69.234.189.218] Received: from jim (adsl-69-234-189-218.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [69.234.189.218]) by pimout7-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id j41M8Llp245250 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:08:28 -0400 From: "jim grimsby" To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 15:08:53 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c54e9a$5ddb2420$220110ac@jim> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <20050501150437.GA31146@blackbox> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: speakup fedora core howto X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:08:29 -0000 Hi,=20 This is the attitude below that turns off the new user!=20 Quite often the user has know idea where to rtfm as you put it. =20 If you are going to refer the user to documentation it might be a good idea to refair them to a section of the manual explaining what ever it is they are asking about.=20 Also not every user understands what the manual is talking about. =20 As far as gnopernicus goes I do not see a manual page nor a info page on it. =20 It is not covered in any of the users guide I have seen so far. =20 So where do we go to rtfm as you put it. =20 Remember experts out there that you were a new user once. =20 Also remember experts out there that in one place you are an expert in others you might be a novus. =20 Remember experts who have decided to be teachers andsuporters of the program that reading manuals is good but a person needs to know what manual to read.=20 -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:05 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: speakup fedora core howto Hi. Startx won't beep. You really need to go learn the basics of X. Once again! RTFM Kenny On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:56:16AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I have tried running gnopernicus in personal desktop type install and=20 > also > in workstation type mode as well as server type. The personal desktop and=20 > workstation types failed completely. The software was put onto the system=20 > to run, but no speech in either of those installation types. tried both=20 > telinit 5 and startx. Startx so far doesn't work in server type over here=20 > but telinit 5 did work. I expect the custom type to do no better than > personal desktop or workstation. The startx command never gets to the=20 > short beep on any of these installation types. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca=20 > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup