From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from fe4.rdc-kc.rr.com ([24.94.163.51] helo=mail4.neb.rr.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17qYyg-00007N-00 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:58:18 -0400 Received: from computer ([65.31.237.222]) by mail4.neb.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c25cb8$ef72a100$deed1f41@neb.rr.com> From: "MaTt" To: References: <20020915010146.GF10373@afb.net> <20020914081634.ZVHC22374.priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net@a7a42593> <20020914081634.ZVHC22374.priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net@a7a42593> <3.0.6.32.20020914122335.007a45e0@pop3.netins.net> <20020915010146.GF10373@afb.net> <3.0.6.32.20020915034837.007ab570@pop3.netins.net> <20020915085551.GA2548@kitten.net.au> <005501c25cb6$9800fcc0$0f01a8c0@home> Subject: Re: (rant) why microsoft is not easy to use Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:08:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hmm well, on my laptop it runs on a p133 with around 14mb of memory so I wouldnt know, it probably would, depends on lots of things though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" To: Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 7:51 AM Subject: Re: (rant) why microsoft is not easy to use > will This run on old p166? We need to replace our ailing old win95 machines, > and if I could convince the folks at work to replace with linux, all the > better. > > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aaron Howell" > To: > Sent: 15 September, 2002 4:55 AM > Subject: Re: (rant) why microsoft is not easy to use > > > Why not have the best of both worlds. > Visit http://www.lycoris.org (or for the bandwidthly impaired, > http://www.lycoris.com and get a copy on cd). > You'll probably need sighted help to get it up and running, but once its up > you can of course use it like any other linux distribution via speakup on > the console. > The beauty of this one is for all intents and purposes your sighted folk > will think its Windows XP. > The GUI is actually KDE 2.2.2 (3.0 in the next release i believe) but its > been heavily customized to resemble XP in look and feel. > Coupled with a copy of Crossover office and MS Office 2k, I've almost > convinced my Fiance that linux is the way to go. > (and she's about as diehard windows as they come). > (btw I have no affiliation with Lycoris at all, its just that someone demoed > it to us at work and it really does look awesome). > Regards > Aaron > On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 03:48:37AM -0500, Jason Symes wrote: > > I see someone else is taking issue with my corrected goof. Let me state > > this again, at times windows is the most frustrating, difficult thing on > > this planet, what I meant was its simple to sighted people because they > > don't know any better. Its social inertia, they don't want to use > something > > new because they don't want to take the time to learn something new. > > At 06:13 PM 9/15/02 +1000, you wrote: > > > > > >*SNIP* > > >This from the guy who says Windows is superior because it's so easy? > > >yeah. that's it, you go girl! > > >easy my ass. If you're sighted just point and click. yeah right. > > >for us, press this plus that plus the other and play twister just to get > > >to a dialog and swear at it cause they moron that coded it used non > > >standard controls. > > >yeah. real easy. > > > > > >-- > > >Shaun Oliver > > > > > > > > >In a world without fences > > > and walls who needs Windows and Gates? > > > > > >EMAIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au > > >ICQ: 76958435 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > Jason Symes > > kids in the backseat can cause accidents, but accidents in the back seat > > can cause kids > > The best measure of a man's honesty isn't his income tax return. It's the > > zero adjust on his bathroom scale. (Arthur C. Clarke) > > if you stand for nothing you're liable to fall for anything. > > If it weren't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any at all! > > Just trying to plug away! > > > -- > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > / |\ _,,,---,,_ /| > / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ / | > / |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' / | > / '---''(_/--' `-'\_) / | > +----------------------------------------------------------+ | > | Aaron Howell Kitten Internet | | > | aaron@kitten.net.au Internet consultancy, | | > | Phone: +61-417-625550 System administration, | | > | fax: +61-7-36010099 system design/integration. | | > | icq: 6715521 http://www.kitten.net.au | | > | | | > | | + > | | / > | | / > | | / > | |/ > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup