From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.100] helo=ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARM2N-0007eg-00 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:42:43 -0500 Received: from quantum (rdu74-168-227.nc.rr.com [24.74.168.227]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB31gRSr019312 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:42:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Sina Bahram" To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:42:27 -0500 Organization: HOME Message-ID: <000201c3b93e$b92cd5a0$6501a8c0@quantum> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-reply-to: <001b01c3b93c$014b3c30$6901a8c0@ism.can.ibm.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: RE: Servers and Tos X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: sbahram@nc.rr.com, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:42:43 -0000 Yeh they say lots of things. But with all do respect people...it's almost impossible for them to tell if you have a router, and speaking of this; I didn't know that was even in their rules. Actually, they can easily tell if you have a router, but then I can say; yes absolutely I do, and it is serving as my firewall, which you guys explicitly state that you do not support but allow. Therefore, they are a bunch of more ons for thinking they can controll things, but also they are feeding of people's common stupidity. I might have 5 to 20 computers running off my cable modem account *smile* but the only way they are going to catch me in this *obviously hypothetical example, of course* is to come into my house, which even in the hypocritical legal system of today, is still illegal without a warrant. So I wouldn't really worry about this whole thing all that much. Take care, Sina No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Rejean Proulx Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:23 PM To: Jes and guide dog Harley; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Servers and Tos This is typical Road Runner stuff. You can't even have a router. Not only that, they block all kinds of mail including legitimate mail. They are like a truck driver who sensors mail. Imagine if the postal truck came to your house and said, you can't have that mail because it comes from John and because there are 250 John's in jail, we block all mail from John. That is effectively what Road Runner does, so when I read their agreements, I'm not surprised. I like Road Runner. Can you tell? Rejean Proulx Visit my family at http://interfree.ca MSN is: rejp@rogers.com Ham License VA3REJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:03 PM Subject: Servers and Tos > Well, the following text says it all right here: > The Road Runner Service as offered under this Agreement is a > residential service offered for personal, non-commercial use only. > Subscriber agrees not > to use the Road Runner Service for operation as an internet service provider, for the hosting of websites or for any business > enterprise. Subscriber further > agrees not to connect the cable modem to any computer other than the Computer(s) or to any server (or any computer running server > applications that provide > similar protocol services over the Road Runner Service), including > without limitation any servers for mail, HTTP, FTP, RTP, IRC, > DHCP, or multi-user interactive > forums (e.g. gaming). So, unless I miss my guess, this answer is no... > Am I right or wrong on this? All the thing says is that > you're not suipposed to hook up the cable modem to a computer that is running these applications. > > > Jes and Harley > Email: jesman598@triad.rr.com > Msn instant messenger: subman70@hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup