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* RE: daisy-player 1.0
@  David B Andrews
   ` Jos Lemmens
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: David B Andrews @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: blinux-list

Just to be clear:  the DAISY standard does make possible detailed navigation of a publication, however, the navigation structure must be included by the producer of the book.  

Traditionally, the player developers, both hardware and software have supported more navigation than most book producers have coded into their publications.

This is because it is a lot of work, and the book production tools are still developing * I think.

Dave



David Andrews
Chief Technology Officer
Minnesota State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave. W., #240
St. Paul, MN  55114-1840
(651) 642-0513  Office
(612) 730-7931  Cell
(651) 649-5927  Fax


>>> pratikp1@lycos.com 6/10/2006 2:17 PM >>>
JS Wrote -----

----- SNIP -----

What do you mean by "structural navigation"? 

----- SNIP -----
Pratik Patel Responds:

Joe, DAISY supports much more detailed navigation than  by page.  Sections,
headings, illustrations, tables, sentences, phrases etc.  Janina wants to
know if your navigation supports these additional elements.

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
From: blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com] 
On Behalf Of Jos Lemmens
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:24 PM
To: blinux
Subject: Re: daisy-player 1.0

Hello Janina,

On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 11:56:38AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> It would be helpful if you would specify what versions of DAISY your
> player supports.
>
I only have Daisy-CD's with format 2.02:

   <meta name="dc:format" content="Daisy 2.02"/>

> Also, is page navigation the only navigation your player supports? It
> would be unfortunate if structural navigation is missing.
>
What do you mean by "structural navigation"?

Give it a try...

   Regards,

      Jos.

> Janina 
>
> Jos Lemmens writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On my homepage:
> >
> >    http://www.jlemmens.nl/homepage/daisy_player-1.0.tar.gz 
> >
> > you can find version 1.0 of my daisy-player.
> > This version doesn't need lynx anymore.
> > Daisy-player only uses madplay to play the audio files.
> > Daisy-player now can skip forward and backward while playing.
> > Here is the help-screen to show the keys that can be used:
> >
> > cursor down     - move cursor to the next item
> > cursor up       - move cursor to the previous item
> > cursor right    - skip 3 seconds forward
> > cursor left     - skip 3 seconds backward
> > page-down       - view next page
> > page-up         - view previous page
> > enter           - Start playing
> > space           - pause/resume playing
> > h or ?          - give this help
> > j               - just play this item
> > q               - quit daisy-player
> > s               - stop playing
> >
> >    Best regards,
> >
> >       Jos.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com 
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list 
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.240.715.1272
> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://CapitalAccessibility.Com 
>
> Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and
Canada--Go to http://ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more.
>
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
> janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org 

--

   -------------------------------
   Jos Lemmens

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* Re: daisy-player 1.0
   daisy-player 1.0 David B Andrews
@  ` Jos Lemmens
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jos Lemmens @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux for blind general discussion

Hello David and others,

On www.jlemmens.nl is version 2.0 of daisy_player available.
This version supports all navigation which is available on a daisy-cd.
I only had, till now, daisy-cd's with versions 2.022 and 2.02.
Daisy_player works fine with these versions.

This new version can also play normal audio-cd';s. It will try to
get album-information from the freedb-server.

The cursor follows your commands so that you have direct response on
your braille-terminal.

Daisy_player uses the madplay-, the SDL-, and the curl-packages,
so be sure you have installed these packages. Most Linux-flavors
provide these on there INSTALL cd's.

   Best regards,

      Jos.

On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:34:08AM -0500, David B Andrews wrote:
> Just to be clear:  the DAISY standard does make possible detailed navigation of a publication, however, the navigation structure must be included by the producer of the book.
>
> Traditionally, the player developers, both hardware and software have supported more navigation than most book producers have coded into their publications.
>
> This is because it is a lot of work, and the book production tools are still developing * I think.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> David Andrews
> Chief Technology Officer
> Minnesota State Services for the Blind
> 2200 University Ave. W., #240
> St. Paul, MN  55114-1840
> (651) 642-0513  Office
> (612) 730-7931  Cell
> (651) 649-5927  Fax
>
>
   -------------------------------
   Jos Lemmens
   E-mail: jos@jlemmens.nl
   Homepage: www.jlemmens.nl

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* RE: daisy-player 1.0
     ` Jos Lemmens
@      ` Pratik patel
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Pratik patel @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Jos Lemmens', 'Linux for blind general discussion'

JS Wrote -----

----- SNIP -----

What do you mean by "structural navigation"? 

----- SNIP -----
Pratik Patel Responds:

Joe, DAISY supports much more detailed navigation than  by page.  Sections,
headings, illustrations, tables, sentences, phrases etc.  Janina wants to
know if your navigation supports these additional elements.

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
From: blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com]
On Behalf Of Jos Lemmens
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:24 PM
To: blinux
Subject: Re: daisy-player 1.0

Hello Janina,

On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 11:56:38AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> It would be helpful if you would specify what versions of DAISY your
> player supports.
>
I only have Daisy-CD's with format 2.02:

   <meta name="dc:format" content="Daisy 2.02"/>

> Also, is page navigation the only navigation your player supports? It
> would be unfortunate if structural navigation is missing.
>
What do you mean by "structural navigation"?

Give it a try...

   Regards,

      Jos.

> Janina 
>
> Jos Lemmens writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On my homepage:
> >
> >    http://www.jlemmens.nl/homepage/daisy_player-1.0.tar.gz
> >
> > you can find version 1.0 of my daisy-player.
> > This version doesn't need lynx anymore.
> > Daisy-player only uses madplay to play the audio files.
> > Daisy-player now can skip forward and backward while playing.
> > Here is the help-screen to show the keys that can be used:
> >
> > cursor down     - move cursor to the next item
> > cursor up       - move cursor to the previous item
> > cursor right    - skip 3 seconds forward
> > cursor left     - skip 3 seconds backward
> > page-down       - view next page
> > page-up         - view previous page
> > enter           - Start playing
> > space           - pause/resume playing
> > h or ?          - give this help
> > j               - just play this item
> > q               - quit daisy-player
> > s               - stop playing
> >
> >    Best regards,
> >
> >       Jos.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.240.715.1272
> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://CapitalAccessibility.Com
>
> Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and
Canada--Go to http://ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more.
>
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
> janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

--

   -------------------------------
   Jos Lemmens

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* Re: daisy-player 1.0
   ` Janina Sajka
@    ` Jos Lemmens
       ` Pratik patel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jos Lemmens @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: blinux

Hello Janina,

On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 11:56:38AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> It would be helpful if you would specify what versions of DAISY your
> player supports.
>
I only have Daisy-CD's with format 2.02:

   <meta name="dc:format" content="Daisy 2.02"/>

> Also, is page navigation the only navigation your player supports? It
> would be unfortunate if structural navigation is missing.
>
What do you mean by "structural navigation"?

Give it a try...

   Regards,

      Jos.

> Janina 
>
> Jos Lemmens writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On my homepage:
> >
> >    http://www.jlemmens.nl/homepage/daisy_player-1.0.tar.gz
> >
> > you can find version 1.0 of my daisy-player.
> > This version doesn't need lynx anymore.
> > Daisy-player only uses madplay to play the audio files.
> > Daisy-player now can skip forward and backward while playing.
> > Here is the help-screen to show the keys that can be used:
> >
> > cursor down     - move cursor to the next item
> > cursor up       - move cursor to the previous item
> > cursor right    - skip 3 seconds forward
> > cursor left     - skip 3 seconds backward
> > page-down       - view next page
> > page-up         - view previous page
> > enter           - Start playing
> > space           - pause/resume playing
> > h or ?          - give this help
> > j               - just play this item
> > q               - quit daisy-player
> > s               - stop playing
> >
> >    Best regards,
> >
> >       Jos.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.240.715.1272
> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://CapitalAccessibility.Com
>
> Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada--Go to http://ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more.
>
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
> janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

--

   -------------------------------
   Jos Lemmens

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* Re: daisy-player 1.0
   Jos Lemmens
   ` Tony Baechler
@  ` Janina Sajka
     ` Jos Lemmens
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jos Lemmens, Linux for blind general discussion

It would be helpful if you would specify what versions of DAISY your
player supports.

Also, is page navigation the only navigation your player supports? It
would be unfortunate if structural navigation is missing.

Janina

Jos Lemmens writes:
> Hello,
> 
> On my homepage:
> 
>    http://www.jlemmens.nl/homepage/daisy_player-1.0.tar.gz
> 
> you can find version 1.0 of my daisy-player.
> This version doesn't need lynx anymore.
> Daisy-player only uses madplay to play the audio files.
> Daisy-player now can skip forward and backward while playing.
> Here is the help-screen to show the keys that can be used:
> 
> cursor down     - move cursor to the next item
> cursor up       - move cursor to the previous item
> cursor right    - skip 3 seconds forward
> cursor left     - skip 3 seconds backward
> page-down       - view next page
> page-up         - view previous page
> enter           - Start playing
> space           - pause/resume playing
> h or ?          - give this help
> j               - just play this item
> q               - quit daisy-player
> s               - stop playing
> 
>    Best regards,
> 
>       Jos.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

-- 

Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.240.715.1272
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://CapitalAccessibility.Com

Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada--Go to http://ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more.

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

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* Re: daisy-player 1.0
     ` Aldo
@      ` Jos Lemmens
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jos Lemmens @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux for blind general discussion

On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:13:31PM +0200, Aldo wrote:
> On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 12:28:55AM -0700, Tony Baechler wrote:
> >the particular player did not come installed with
> > Debian although I'm sure it is available,
>
> Attention:
> I did used until now a static bin of Jos' DAISY-Player:
> when puted in your /usr/local/bin + adding the next lien in /etc/mailcap
> causes the player to work correctly:
> text/x-sh; sh %s > /dev/null 2>&1 &
>
> I don't know if this is still necessary since it was destinated to Lynx.
>

No, this is not necessary anymore. Daisy-player now has its own browser
and don't uses lynx.

    Jos.

> Aldo.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
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* Re: daisy-player 1.0
   ` Tony Baechler
     ` Jos Lemmens
@    ` Aldo
       ` Jos Lemmens
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Aldo @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux for blind general discussion

On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 12:28:55AM -0700, Tony Baechler wrote:
>the particular player did not come installed with 
> Debian although I'm sure it is available, 

Attention:
I did used until now a static bin of Jos' DAISY-Player:
when puted in your /usr/local/bin + adding the next lien in /etc/mailcap 
causes the player to work correctly:
text/x-sh; sh %s > /dev/null 2>&1 &

I don't know if this is still necessary since it was destinated to Lynx.
 
Aldo.

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* Re: daisy-player 1.0
   ` Tony Baechler
@    ` Jos Lemmens
     ` Aldo
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jos Lemmens @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: blinux

Hello Tony,

On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 12:28:55AM -0700, Tony Baechler wrote:
> Hi,
>
I wanted to play my daisy cd's with Linux, so I searched the net,
but didn't find one, so I decided to write one myself.
I don't uses non-audio files (bookshare), so there is no support for
these.
Sorry that I thought the madplay package is in every distro. I use
Slackware and they provide madplay.

   Regards,

       Jos.


> What about source code for this?  What about non-audio files like
> those from http://www.bookshare.org/ that are in DAISY format but
> text only?  Also, the particular player did not come installed with
> Debian although I'm sure it is available, so it is misleading to say
> that it comes with any Linux box.  Finally, what is the license?  You
> gave no copyright or license statement in the README file.
>

--

   -------------------------------
   Jos Lemmens
   E-mail: jos@jlemmens.nl
   Homepage: www.jlemmens.nl

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* Re: daisy-player 1.0
   Jos Lemmens
@  ` Tony Baechler
     ` Jos Lemmens
     ` Aldo
   ` Janina Sajka
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tony Baechler @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jos Lemmens, Linux for blind general discussion

Hi,

What about source code for this?  What about non-audio files like 
those from http://www.bookshare.org/ that are in DAISY format but 
text only?  Also, the particular player did not come installed with 
Debian although I'm sure it is available, so it is misleading to say 
that it comes with any Linux box.  Finally, what is the license?  You 
gave no copyright or license statement in the README file.

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* daisy-player 1.0
@  Jos Lemmens
   ` Tony Baechler
   ` Janina Sajka
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jos Lemmens @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: blinux

Hello,

On my homepage:

   http://www.jlemmens.nl/homepage/daisy_player-1.0.tar.gz

you can find version 1.0 of my daisy-player.
This version doesn't need lynx anymore.
Daisy-player only uses madplay to play the audio files.
Daisy-player now can skip forward and backward while playing.
Here is the help-screen to show the keys that can be used:

cursor down     - move cursor to the next item
cursor up       - move cursor to the previous item
cursor right    - skip 3 seconds forward
cursor left     - skip 3 seconds backward
page-down       - view next page
page-up         - view previous page
enter           - Start playing
space           - pause/resume playing
h or ?          - give this help
j               - just play this item
q               - quit daisy-player
s               - stop playing

   Best regards,

      Jos.

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