"Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd)

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Kyle, I have no idea what's so different about our computers. I wish I knew
enough to debug what's going so wrong on mine to cause Orca to crash so
frequently. But I can't use Linux in this current situation, so I'll wait a
while, and try again, maybe after accessibility fixes happen in Gnome and
such.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.prater at gmail.com




On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:09 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi all.
> I've been using linux at work and at home for at least 12 years.
> I certainly encounter accessibility problems as I also encountered when
> I was a windows user.
> In my opinion, accessibility in linux has improved a lot, even because
> there seems to be a greater interest in the community in using linux.
> By the way, this message was written and sent from a computer with
> fedora workstation version 36 installed.
>
> On 8/15/22 10:25, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > For me, I still love Linux enough to keep up with the accessibility
> stuff,
> > and even try it every six months or so. However, the last time I tried
> it,
> > Orca was so unstable that I managed to crash it by pressing Alt + Tab.
> Now,
> > this was on an HP Pavilian laptop, but I don't see how any lack of
> hardware
> > drivers would *only* effect accessibility. I tried Fedora, Ubuntu, and I
> > think Mint. All performed the same. Well, Ubuntu lasted a bit longer but
> > still, wow. Now, before I get another batch of complain-mail, I'm not
> > saying Linux isn't usable for those who don't have demanding jobs with
> > oodles of rolls to fill and hats to wear and people to work with. It's
> nice
> > for home users and simple tasks, and even some development, in Emacs or
> > Nano or VIM or whatever. But it's not ready for *me* yet, and the people
> > who still develop NVDA addons, apps like Tweesecake and Bookworm, and
> > remote desktop solutions, all show, to me at least, that Linux isn't
> ready
> > for them yet either. I could be wrong. I admit it. But those are my
> > opinions, backed up by *my* experiences.
> > Devin Prater
> > r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:12 AM Linux for blind general discussion <
> > blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> (from Matt Campbell)
> >>
> >> Thanks all for the appreciation and memories. But I'm afraid that, at
> >> the risk of getting philosophical, the person who created ZipSpeak and
> >> trplayer no longer exists. I remember being him, and I still have his
> >> name and email address, but I'm no longer him. I've changed so much over
> >> the two decades since then. Nothing makes that clearer than Chris's and
> >> Karen's concerns about my attitude toward Linux console users and, more
> >> generally, people who don't follow the whims of mainstream technology
> >> for whatever reason. And those responses have given me something to
> >> think about, but I don't yet know what I'll do about it. I said what I
> >> wanted to say on the Fedora accessibility article, and maybe I shouldn't
> >> have even let myself get pulled into that thread. But I think I'm now
> >> philosophically far enough away from many, or even most, in this
> >> community that I will probably retreat again from this list and other
> >> related lists.
> >>
> >> Matt
> >>
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