From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: blinux-list at redhat.com (Linux for blind general discussion) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 14:09:42 -0300 Subject: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: List-Id: Hi all. I've been using linux at work and at home for at least 12 years. I certainly encounter accessibility problems as I also encountered when I was a windows user. In my opinion, accessibility in linux has improved a lot, even because there seems to be a greater interest in the community in using linux. By the way, this message was written and sent from a computer with fedora workstation version 36 installed. On 8/15/22 10:25, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > For me, I still love Linux enough to keep up with the accessibility stuff, > and even try it every six months or so. However, the last time I tried it, > Orca was so unstable that I managed to crash it by pressing Alt + Tab. Now, > this was on an HP Pavilian laptop, but I don't see how any lack of hardware > drivers would *only* effect accessibility. I tried Fedora, Ubuntu, and I > think Mint. All performed the same. Well, Ubuntu lasted a bit longer but > still, wow. Now, before I get another batch of complain-mail, I'm not > saying Linux isn't usable for those who don't have demanding jobs with > oodles of rolls to fill and hats to wear and people to work with. It's nice > for home users and simple tasks, and even some development, in Emacs or > Nano or VIM or whatever. But it's not ready for *me* yet, and the people > who still develop NVDA addons, apps like Tweesecake and Bookworm, and > remote desktop solutions, all show, to me at least, that Linux isn't ready > for them yet either. I could be wrong. I admit it. But those are my > opinions, backed up by *my* experiences. > Devin Prater > r.d.t.prater at gmail.com > > > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:12 AM Linux for blind general discussion < > blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote: > >> (from Matt Campbell) >> >> Thanks all for the appreciation and memories. But I'm afraid that, at >> the risk of getting philosophical, the person who created ZipSpeak and >> trplayer no longer exists. I remember being him, and I still have his >> name and email address, but I'm no longer him. I've changed so much over >> the two decades since then. Nothing makes that clearer than Chris's and >> Karen's concerns about my attitude toward Linux console users and, more >> generally, people who don't follow the whims of mainstream technology >> for whatever reason. And those responses have given me something to >> think about, but I don't yet know what I'll do about it. I said what I >> wanted to say on the Fedora accessibility article, and maybe I shouldn't >> have even let myself get pulled into that thread. But I think I'm now >> philosophically far enough away from many, or even most, in this >> community that I will probably retreat again from this list and other >> related lists. >> >> Matt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >