From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: blinux-list at redhat.com (Linux for blind general discussion) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 11:51:35 -0400 Subject: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: List-Id: Valiant8086 here. I'm 99 percent a Windows user, and I use command line a fair bit honestly. Just as you mentioned, what ever tool seems most efficient and friendly for the user is what they should be using. Cheers: Aaron Spears, AKA Valiant8086 General Partner at Valiant Galaxy Associates "we make (VERY GOOD AUDIOGAMES) for the blind comunity" http://valiantGalaxy.com On 8/15/2022 11:01 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > See I'm curious. I've been watching this thread and figured I'd leap > in. My setup is I havve a WM going, Ratpoison in my case find terminal > things easier to use, for example pipe-viewer for Youtube videos > without fighting with the frankly, clunky and obtuse Youtube main site > that's trying to force me to bee Google's slave. > > > So I'm in this weird spot where I'm using, say, Firefox or web > browsing, but say if I download a news article or something for, let's > say, a blog post and I need to quickly grab text I find it quicker for > me to fire up w3m in my terminal, select what I want and copy it that > way, than use Firefox to do the same task. > > > Or for email, I prefer the quickness and ease of use of Mutt, I can go > in, delete a bunch of emails for example, without having to deal with > Thunderbird/Evolution's laginess and Orca freezing up in a folder with > thousands of messages for example. > > > I'd argue that trying to force GUI usage isn't really the right > approach, instead more of okay, here's a set of tools, some or CLI, > some are GUI, use what works for you and your use cases. I can't use > GUI tools when SSHing into a machine really, so personally, I'm in > this hybrid sort of setup where I do have a window manager and access > to graphical apps, but I prefer to use the terminal and CLI for > several things that I find too clunky with a desktop. That and I don't > have to deal withh things such as Orca getting stuck in a CLI app, > that doesn't happen at all. > > So TL:DR Use what works for you no matter if it's CLI or GUI, use what > suits you best IMO > > > On 8/15/22 14:12, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> (from Matt Campbell) >> >> Thanks all for the appreciation and memories. But I'm afraid that, at >> the risk of getting philosophical, the person who created ZipSpeak >> and trplayer no longer exists. I remember being him, and I still have >> his name and email address, but I'm no longer him. I've changed so >> much over the two decades since then. Nothing makes that clearer than >> Chris's and Karen's concerns about my attitude toward Linux console >> users and, more generally, people who don't follow the whims of >> mainstream technology for whatever reason. And those responses have >> given me something to think about, but I don't yet know what I'll do >> about it. I said what I wanted to say on the Fedora accessibility >> article, and maybe I shouldn't have even let myself get pulled into >> that thread. But I think I'm now philosophically far enough away from >> many, or even most, in this community that I will probably retreat >> again from this list and other related lists. >> >> Matt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >