"Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd)

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I mean, we don't have to have volumes of Braille anymore, just a Braille
Display, which work great with BRLTTY.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.prater at gmail.com




On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:21 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:

> I echo this attitude concern, but for a different reason.
> who gets to decide what bodies  deserve a place at the table?
> because of a vascular accident in an eye surgery, I experience a brain
> anomaly where certain frequencies stimulate the dizzy centres of my brain.
> allot of those frequencies happen in poorly designed software  speech
> configurations for Linux.
> Meaning, because little effort has been made to give choices for Linux
> speech in the gui, if I wanted to use this, I would have to choose between
> a Linux computer and hospitalization.
> compare this with apple hardware.
> I recently aquired a  mid 2012 macbook pro which, because of how the
> voiceover   sound is produced is perfectly safe for my use..and I can
> still run  only one  Mac os off  from the last pre m.1 systems.
> i have an associate in my office running their business on a 2011 macbook
> pro.
> Indeed climate change, landfill issues, available resources in terms of
> training and access all over the world.
> And, for many how their body works mandates choices.
> There was a time when one of the great things about Linux was that it
> could be used to breathe  new life into older hardware.  especially
> helpful in  non-western countries where getting the fastest car on the
> road was costly.
> If your attitude was the rule though, those folks regardless of abilities
> might never get computers at all.
>   take your attitude and say substitute braille.
>   Statistically less than 10% of the blindness community are braille
> users,
> meaning the majority do not  use it, or even learn it if newly blinded.
> so, its unfortunate some blind people are still stuck needing volumes and
> volumes of braille, but  to expect the world to confirm to such a limited
> use language etc.
> Speaking personally, especially given how flexible Linux is  supposed to
> be?
> deciding some have no place at your gui table is little different than
> deciding those who are visible minorities, no matter the location, have no
> place at the table either.
>   Karen
>
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022, Chris Brannon wrote:
>
> > Matt Campbell <mattcampbell at pobox.com> writes:
> >
> >> I took this position in 2000, but for the last decade or more, access
> to a
> >> GUI has been widely available to blind people at no extra cost. (If
> there
> >> are blind people today who are truly stuck on old hardware with no
> >> accessible GUI, that's unfortunate, but I think this is one case where
> the
> >> best solution is charity, not expecting the rest of the world to
> accommodate
> >> this situation forever. That's no different than for sighted people
> stuck on
> >> very old hardware.)
> >
> > I'm sorry, but this is a very irresponsible attitude, given the impact
> > of climate change.  And now on top of that, the world is coping with
> > supply chain issues.  "Chuck it in a landfill because it won't run the
> > latest Electron app" is deeply unacceptable.
> >
> > I do agree with you about the importance of GUI accessibility, even
> > though I only use one when circumstances force me to it.  I'm somewhat
> > optimistic about the recent news.
> >
> > -- Chris
> >
> >
>
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