From: blinux-list at redhat.com (Linux for blind general discussion)
Subject: slack in Ubintu?
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:33:26 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.3037.1664134411.6076.blinux-list@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CN5OB5WYJNS2.34IEXFK1NRMYF@archlinux-x220>
Sebastian,
This is a profoundly intelligent question.
Interestingly enough the Web access initiative list, which discusses and
tracks action around wCaG and other universal design policies talked about
this recently. Tied to a case in India.
One of the most unfortunate mistakes many many many people make is to
start with the screen reader, when in fact what makes things work is the
design elements.
Progressive enhancement where one starts with a good old fashioned html
floor, then incorporates other elements to which browsers created for
those elements can draw upon, is the most inclusive path to screen reader
function.
That is because a screen reader, and there are scores of them across
platforms is basically at its best a talking monitor and keyboard.
Speaks when keys are struck, responds if an enter key is hit, reacts if
the site in turn is coded to properly react to this first and foremost.
Web Access content guidelines are technology certainly browser agnostic.
Meaning they focus on Interaction, not tool..so you do not end up
expecting a person to be disabled according to a specific definition.
Inclusion is not about blindness or screen readers, and more than those
experiencing sight loss benefit from, and use screen readers.
Instead of asking about screen reader tools, perhaps consider exploring
progressive enhancement web design practices. that way not only screen
readers work, but voice browsers and augmented keyboards too.
Does that resonate?
Karen
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022, Sebastian LaVine wrote:
> On Sun Sep 25, 2022 at 1:29 PM EDT, Hendursaga wrote:
>> I generally just use the browser client, I'm afraid, but sclack[1] was the
>> last TUI client I tested, though I doubt it's very screen-reader friendly,
>> unfortunately.
>
> Do you happen to know of any resources on screen-reader friendliness for
> TUIs in general? Is there any particular way screen-readers know how to
> distinguish from actual text and "graphical" elements? Or a way that TUI
> program developers can accomodate that?
>
>
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