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Has	 there been any notification for mutt users also; that at the end of may it too can not access gmail accounts?


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Hi,
If someone can point us to the branch of fetchmail that can handle oauth2, 
one can use that with alpine.
Regards, Willem



On Thu, 26 May 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> I really, really hope the Alpine developers can find a fix for this.
>
>
> I am rather partial to living on a console for as much as I can, but with 
> Gmail and Alpine breaking, it would be rather difficult, unless I would want 
> to find an alternative solution, which I am not, simply because I have quite 
> a few mailing lists subscribe to the gmail, and I'm lazy..
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Brandt Steenkamp
>
> Sent using Thunderbird from the Slint laptop
>
> On 2022/05/26 13:53, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> unsure if thunderbird can do it via oauth also.
>> 
>> 
>> Yes. I've been able to use Thunderbird in that way with Gmail for some 
>> time. It redirects to Google and asks me to allow the application instead 
>> of getting a username and password. This of course is specific to 
>> Thunderbird though, and I can't remember if Seamonkey works the same way. 
>> That said, I do seem to recall Evolution redirecting to Google in much the 
>> same way, so it may still work also. Doesn't solve the text-based client 
>> issues, but if Alpine in fact has figured out a fix, that would in fact 
>> solve the problem there.
>> 
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I really, really hope the Alpine developers can find a fix for this.


I am rather partial to living on a console for as much as I can, but 
with Gmail and Alpine breaking, it would be rather difficult, unless I 
would want to find an alternative solution, which I am not, simply 
because I have quite a few mailing lists subscribe to the gmail, and I'm 
lazy..


Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

Sent using Thunderbird from the Slint laptop

On 2022/05/26 13:53, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> unsure if thunderbird can do it via oauth also.
>
>
> Yes. I've been able to use Thunderbird in that way with Gmail for some 
> time. It redirects to Google and asks me to allow the application 
> instead of getting a username and password. This of course is specific 
> to Thunderbird though, and I can't remember if Seamonkey works the 
> same way. That said, I do seem to recall Evolution redirecting to 
> Google in much the same way, so it may still work also. Doesn't solve 
> the text-based client issues, but if Alpine in fact has figured out a 
> fix, that would in fact solve the problem there.
>
> ~Kyle
>
> _______________________________________________
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unsure if thunderbird can do it via oauth also.


Yes. I've been able to use Thunderbird in that way with Gmail for some 
time. It redirects to Google and asks me to allow the application 
instead of getting a username and password. This of course is specific 
to Thunderbird though, and I can't remember if Seamonkey works the same 
way. That said, I do seem to recall Evolution redirecting to Google in 
much the same way, so it may still work also. Doesn't solve the 
text-based client issues, but if Alpine in fact has figured out a fix, 
that would in fact solve the problem there.

~Kyle


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hi,
I believe? the alpine developers came up with a solution for this?
I am on the Alpine developers list, even though I do not use the program 
over much.
may be worth contacting them though,
Karen



On Wed, 25 May 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> hi
> yes google are removing all  user/password authenticaion apps.
> that  wil include mutt fetchmail et al.
>
> they ar egoing oauth only.
> i seem to recollect that at the moment there are app passwords still allowed after may 30th.
>
> so if u use 2fa u can get an app password foe mutt fetchmail and so on.
> there isa branch of fetchmail that wil do the oath thing, dunno about mutt.
>
> unsure if thunderbird can do it via oauth also.
>
> in short anyting that goes via username/password to access smtp for outgoing mail or imap /pop for incomming mail wont be allowed.
>
> what u can do for incomming mail only is doa pop3 forward to a mail provider that does allow username/password, and access that via mutt.
> other than that u got to figure out a way to do it via oauth.
>
> yes its pita but google are google!
>
> ta
> neil foster
>
>
>>
>>
>> Has	 there been any notification for mutt users also; that at the end of may it too can not access gmail accounts?
>>
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hi
yes google are removing all  user/password authenticaion apps.
that  wil include mutt fetchmail et al.

they ar egoing oauth only.
i seem to recollect that at the moment there are app passwords still allowed after may 30th.

so if u use 2fa u can get an app password foe mutt fetchmail and so on.
there isa branch of fetchmail that wil do the oath thing, dunno about mutt.

unsure if thunderbird can do it via oauth also.
 
in short anyting that goes via username/password to access smtp for outgoing mail or imap /pop for incomming mail wont be allowed.

what u can do for incomming mail only is doa pop3 forward to a mail provider that does allow username/password, and access that via mutt.
other than that u got to figure out a way to do it via oauth.

yes its pita but google are google!

ta
neil foster


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