Linux speech w/o special hardware

Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Jack Heim]

Has anyone downloaded IBM's Viavoice Outload lately? I downloaded it last 
summer but now I can't find it on their web site. I'm wondering if it might 
have been withdrawn.

So then I started poking around on the University of Wisconsin's Trace 
Center web site. It mentions something called Festival from the University 
of Edinburgh. I was wondering if anyone had gotten that working on standard 
hardware, a PC with a sound card. 

Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Prasad Chaturvedula]

I have not got it working on a linux box yet, but i have seen it work. It is
good. I think you have binaries for it for linux.

Prasad

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:32 PM
Subject: Linux speech w/o special hardware


> Has anyone downloaded IBM's Viavoice Outload lately? I downloaded it last
> summer but now I can't find it on their web site. I'm wondering if it
might
> have been withdrawn.
>
> So then I started poking around on the University of Wisconsin's Trace
> Center web site. It mentions something called Festival from the University
> of Edinburgh. I was wondering if anyone had gotten that working on
standard
> hardware, a PC with a sound card.
>
>
>
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Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Jack Heim]

I'm unclear on which of the two packages you're talking about. Have you 
seen Festival or Viavoice work?

I spent a couple of hours last night searching google & google groups for 
info on getting Festival working with emacspeak. I didn't really find 
anything helpful and the few pages I did find tended to indicate there's a 
piece missing. Apparently some intermediate piece you need between 
emacspeak & Festival hasn't been developed yet. But most of what I found 
was so vague I couldn't really tell.

I certainly did not find anything where someone said straight out that they 
use a linux machine with emacspeak & Festival.

My problem is that I need a laptop and I can't figure out how I'm going to 
get speech working. It seems to me that dragging along an external synth 
would defeat the purpose.



At 06:03 PM 3/22/02 +0530, you wrote:
>I have not got it working on a linux box yet, but i have seen it work. It is
>good. I think you have binaries for it for linux.
>
>Prasad
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
>To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:32 PM
>Subject: Linux speech w/o special hardware
>
>
> > Has anyone downloaded IBM's Viavoice Outload lately? I downloaded it last
> > summer but now I can't find it on their web site. I'm wondering if it
>might
> > have been withdrawn.
> >
> > So then I started poking around on the University of Wisconsin's Trace
> > Center web site. It mentions something called Festival from the University
> > of Edinburgh. I was wondering if anyone had gotten that working on
>standard
> > hardware, a PC with a sound card.
> >
> >
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Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Janina Sajka]

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The attached web page will put you on the path of getting ViaVoice. It's 
the better solution right now, because installing it and getting it 
working with emacspeak is relatively easy and pretty well documented.
 On 
Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Jack Heim wrote:

> I'm unclear on which of the two packages you're talking about. Have you 
> seen Festival or Viavoice work?
> 
> I spent a couple of hours last night searching google & google groups for 
> info on getting Festival working with emacspeak. I didn't really find 
> anything helpful and the few pages I did find tended to indicate there's a 
> piece missing. Apparently some intermediate piece you need between 
> emacspeak & Festival hasn't been developed yet. But most of what I found 
> was so vague I couldn't really tell.
> 
> I certainly did not find anything where someone said straight out that they 
> use a linux machine with emacspeak & Festival.
> 
> My problem is that I need a laptop and I can't figure out how I'm going to 
> get speech working. It seems to me that dragging along an external synth 
> would defeat the purpose.
> 
> 
> 
> At 06:03 PM 3/22/02 +0530, you wrote:
> >I have not got it working on a linux box yet, but i have seen it work. It is
> >good. I think you have binaries for it for linux.
> >
> >Prasad
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
> >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:32 PM
> >Subject: Linux speech w/o special hardware
> >
> >
> > > Has anyone downloaded IBM's Viavoice Outload lately? I downloaded it last
> > > summer but now I can't find it on their web site. I'm wondering if it
> >might
> > > have been withdrawn.
> > >
> > > So then I started poking around on the University of Wisconsin's Trace
> > > Center web site. It mentions something called Festival from the University
> > > of Edinburgh. I was wondering if anyone had gotten that working on
> >standard
> > > hardware, a PC with a sound card.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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More than just a simple reader, ViaVoice TTS is a sophisticated technology that goes through several high level linguistic stages to create highly intelligible speech output. Rather than using small snippets of actual spoken recordings and gluing them together, the formant technology takes advantage of a synthesizer to generate the final sounds that we hear.  The attributes of this technology are that it is highly intelligible, and, because it is totally generated by the computer, is very flexible and requires fewer system resources.  It can accommodate an unlimited number of voices by modifying the gender, pitch, headsize, roughness, etc., and all of these attributes can be modified on the fly.
<p><a href="http://www.ibm.com/software/speech/enterprise/collateral/viavoicetts.pdf">IBM ViaVoice TTS Spec Sheet</a>

<p><font color=green>June 26, 2000:</font> The <i>golden</i> <b>ViaVoice TTS SDK for Linux V5.1</b> is now available. This SDK provides a robust set of application programming interfaces (APIs)
that when combined with the ViaVoice TTS Run Time Kit enables Linux applications to access text-to-speech resources.
<p><font color=green>March 31, 2000:</font> The <b>ViaVoice TTS Run Time Kit for Linux V5.1</b> provides a flexible speech synthesis engine and currently supports
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<b>ViaVoice TTS SDK for Linux</b>
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<li>Documentation:
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<li>IBM ViaVoice TTS API Reference
<li>Readme Files
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<li>Sample Programs:
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<li>Command Line Speak Sample
<li>File Speak Sample
<li>Lesstif Speak Sample
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<li>32MB of RAM in total
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<p>Technical support for the ViaVoice TTS SDK for Linux and ViaVoice TTS Run Times for Linux is provided free of charge through the use of an e-mail
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to <b><A HREF="mailto:join-viavoice@laser.sparklist.com">join-viavoice@laser.sparklist.com</A></b>. You will then receive an electronic welcome letter containing information on how to use this service.
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than receiving one e-mail for each message posted to the discussion list. To subscribe to the ViaVoice Digest for Linux
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<li>To view the archive of messages, simply visit this address on the web at:
<b><a href="http://viavoice.sparklist.com">http://viavoice.sparklist.com</a></b>
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<p>Note: Please restrict your messages on this discussion list to ViaVoice SDKs and Run Times for Linux.

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<p><b>ViaVoice Run Times</b><br>
You may be eligible to license
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to be integrated with your application package. For more information about runtime licensing, send a note to
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Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  You might want to check out the archives for this list.  I saw a
message a few weeks ago from someone who had a speech server for
emacspeak with Festival.

          Kenny

On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 09:14:40AM -0600, Jack Heim wrote:
> I'm unclear on which of the two packages you're talking about. Have you 
> seen Festival or Viavoice work?
> 
> I spent a couple of hours last night searching google & google groups for 
> info on getting Festival working with emacspeak. I didn't really find 
> anything helpful and the few pages I did find tended to indicate there's a 
> piece missing. Apparently some intermediate piece you need between 
> emacspeak & Festival hasn't been developed yet. But most of what I found 
> was so vague I couldn't really tell.
> 
> I certainly did not find anything where someone said straight out that they 
> use a linux machine with emacspeak & Festival.
> 
> My problem is that I need a laptop and I can't figure out how I'm going to 
> get speech working. It seems to me that dragging along an external synth 
> would defeat the purpose.
> 
> 
> 
> At 06:03 PM 3/22/02 +0530, you wrote:
> >I have not got it working on a linux box yet, but i have seen it work. It 
> >is
> >good. I think you have binaries for it for linux.
> >
> >Prasad
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
> >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:32 PM
> >Subject: Linux speech w/o special hardware
> >
> >
> >> Has anyone downloaded IBM's Viavoice Outload lately? I downloaded it last
> >> summer but now I can't find it on their web site. I'm wondering if it
> >might
> >> have been withdrawn.
> >>
> >> So then I started poking around on the University of Wisconsin's Trace
> >> Center web site. It mentions something called Festival from the 
> >University
> >> of Edinburgh. I was wondering if anyone had gotten that working on
> >standard
> >> hardware, a PC with a sound card.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Prasad Chaturvedula]

What I saw was someone who installed the Festival binaries on Linux and was
tinkering aound with it. Not Festival with Emacspeak.
    There is a Speech server for Festival to work wth emacspeak. This is the
missing piece you are talking about. You need to get this  and then you can
use Festival as the speech engine with emacspeak. Yes, there was a message
reg. this , I think by the author of that speech server. Check out the
archives.

Prasad

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware


> I'm unclear on which of the two packages you're talking about. Have you
> seen Festival or Viavoice work?
>
> I spent a couple of hours last night searching google & google groups for
> info on getting Festival working with emacspeak. I didn't really find
> anything helpful and the few pages I did find tended to indicate there's a
> piece missing. Apparently some intermediate piece you need between
> emacspeak & Festival hasn't been developed yet. But most of what I found
> was so vague I couldn't really tell.
>
> I certainly did not find anything where someone said straight out that
they
> use a linux machine with emacspeak & Festival.
>
> My problem is that I need a laptop and I can't figure out how I'm going to
> get speech working. It seems to me that dragging along an external synth
> would defeat the purpose.
>
>
>
> At 06:03 PM 3/22/02 +0530, you wrote:
> >I have not got it working on a linux box yet, but i have seen it work. It
is
> >good. I think you have binaries for it for linux.
> >
> >Prasad
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
> >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:32 PM
> >Subject: Linux speech w/o special hardware
> >
> >
> > > Has anyone downloaded IBM's Viavoice Outload lately? I downloaded it
last
> > > summer but now I can't find it on their web site. I'm wondering if it
> >might
> > > have been withdrawn.
> > >
> > > So then I started poking around on the University of Wisconsin's Trace
> > > Center web site. It mentions something called Festival from the
University
> > > of Edinburgh. I was wondering if anyone had gotten that working on
> >standard
> > > hardware, a PC with a sound card.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Mario Lang]

Jack Heim <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu> writes:

ViaVoice with Emacspeak is the best choice for now. Only available for i386.

Flite and emacspeak work too (i386 and ARM). But flite has the disadvantage
that it only works for one voice type right now. ViaVoice for instance
can provide more different voices, and that makes voice-lock-mode in Emacspeak
alot more fun :).

My advice is, try to get viavoice running. It delivers the best quality
right now, and apart from being non-commercially free only, its
very good.  I am still wondering why IBM doesn't release different
languuuages. The API allows for german, spanish and so on, but its now 3 or 4 years
and they did only release english version for Linux.

I guess that IBM in really just bought the eloquence engine, thats
what libeci indicates to me.  And eloquence is good.

It would be extremely nice if IBM would release some other languages too.


About festival: The reason why you found only vague things is that Festival
is simply not the right thing to use.  Its a academic tool, and its not
the fastest. About 2 years ago I tried to write a speech server
for Emacspeak+Festival in perl. It more or less worked at some point, but 
I realized that its simply to slow and therefore unusable...

-- 
CYa,
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Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Mario Lang]

Kenny Hitt <kennyhitt@yahoo.com> writes:

> Hi.  You might want to check out the archives for this list.  I saw a
> message a few weeks ago from someone who had a speech server for
> emacspeak with Festival.
Wrong.  The announced speech server was eflite, and that is a speech
server for Emacspeak and Flite. Note that Festival and Flite are not
the same.

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Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Janina Sajka]

Perhaps you're thinking of flite alias festival lite? It's not the same 
thing.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Prasad Chaturvedula wrote:

> What I saw was someone who installed the Festival binaries on Linux and was
> tinkering aound with it. Not Festival with Emacspeak.
>     There is a Speech server for Festival to work wth emacspeak. This is the
> missing piece you are talking about. You need to get this  and then you can
> use Festival as the speech engine with emacspeak. Yes, there was a message
> reg. this , I think by the author of that speech server. Check out the
> archives.
> 
> Prasad
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware
> 
> 
> > I'm unclear on which of the two packages you're talking about. Have you
> > seen Festival or Viavoice work?
> >
> > I spent a couple of hours last night searching google & google groups for
> > info on getting Festival working with emacspeak. I didn't really find
> > anything helpful and the few pages I did find tended to indicate there's a
> > piece missing. Apparently some intermediate piece you need between
> > emacspeak & Festival hasn't been developed yet. But most of what I found
> > was so vague I couldn't really tell.
> >
> > I certainly did not find anything where someone said straight out that
> they
> > use a linux machine with emacspeak & Festival.
> >
> > My problem is that I need a laptop and I can't figure out how I'm going to
> > get speech working. It seems to me that dragging along an external synth
> > would defeat the purpose.
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:03 PM 3/22/02 +0530, you wrote:
> > >I have not got it working on a linux box yet, but i have seen it work. It
> is
> > >good. I think you have binaries for it for linux.
> > >
> > >Prasad
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
> > >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:32 PM
> > >Subject: Linux speech w/o special hardware
> > >
> > >
> > > > Has anyone downloaded IBM's Viavoice Outload lately? I downloaded it
> last
> > > > summer but now I can't find it on their web site. I'm wondering if it
> > >might
> > > > have been withdrawn.
> > > >
> > > > So then I started poking around on the University of Wisconsin's Trace
> > > > Center web site. It mentions something called Festival from the
> University
> > > > of Edinburgh. I was wondering if anyone had gotten that working on
> > >standard
> > > > hardware, a PC with a sound card.
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Prasad Chaturvedula]

I am sorry, it is for flite and not for Festival.

Prasad

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware


>
> Perhaps you're thinking of flite alias festival lite? It's not the same
> thing.
>
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Prasad Chaturvedula wrote:
>
> > What I saw was someone who installed the Festival binaries on Linux and
was
> > tinkering aound with it. Not Festival with Emacspeak.
> >     There is a Speech server for Festival to work wth emacspeak. This is
the
> > missing piece you are talking about. You need to get this  and then you
can
> > use Festival as the speech engine with emacspeak. Yes, there was a
message
> > reg. this , I think by the author of that speech server. Check out the
> > archives.
> >
> > Prasad
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
> > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware
> >
> >
> > > I'm unclear on which of the two packages you're talking about. Have
you
> > > seen Festival or Viavoice work?
> > >
> > > I spent a couple of hours last night searching google & google groups
for
> > > info on getting Festival working with emacspeak. I didn't really find
> > > anything helpful and the few pages I did find tended to indicate
there's a
> > > piece missing. Apparently some intermediate piece you need between
> > > emacspeak & Festival hasn't been developed yet. But most of what I
found
> > > was so vague I couldn't really tell.
> > >
> > > I certainly did not find anything where someone said straight out that
> > they
> > > use a linux machine with emacspeak & Festival.
> > >
> > > My problem is that I need a laptop and I can't figure out how I'm
going to
> > > get speech working. It seems to me that dragging along an external
synth
> > > would defeat the purpose.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 06:03 PM 3/22/02 +0530, you wrote:
> > > >I have not got it working on a linux box yet, but i have seen it
work. It
> > is
> > > >good. I think you have binaries for it for linux.
> > > >
> > > >Prasad
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
> > > >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:32 PM
> > > >Subject: Linux speech w/o special hardware
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Has anyone downloaded IBM's Viavoice Outload lately? I downloaded
it
> > last
> > > > > summer but now I can't find it on their web site. I'm wondering if
it
> > > >might
> > > > > have been withdrawn.
> > > > >
> > > > > So then I started poking around on the University of Wisconsin's
Trace
> > > > > Center web site. It mentions something called Festival from the
> > University
> > > > > of Edinburgh. I was wondering if anyone had gotten that working on
> > > >standard
> > > > > hardware, a PC with a sound card.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[Janina Sajka]

You might want to check the  blinux archive. I don't recall precisely, 
though this was definitely on the list a week or two ago. First, though be 
sure you can actually get flite working. Do a search on google for flite 
to find the place to download the source from and compile it. If that's 
successful, it will make sense to take the next steps. If it isn't, it 
won't make any difference.
 On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Prasad Chaturvedula wrote:

> I am sorry, it is for flite and not for Festival.
> 
> Prasad
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware
> 
> 
> >
> > Perhaps you're thinking of flite alias festival lite? It's not the same
> > thing.
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Prasad Chaturvedula wrote:
> >
> > > What I saw was someone who installed the Festival binaries on Linux and
> was
> > > tinkering aound with it. Not Festival with Emacspeak.
> > >     There is a Speech server for Festival to work wth emacspeak. This is
> the
> > > missing piece you are talking about. You need to get this  and then you
> can
> > > use Festival as the speech engine with emacspeak. Yes, there was a
> message
> > > reg. this , I think by the author of that speech server. Check out the
> > > archives.
> > >
> > > Prasad
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
> > > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm unclear on which of the two packages you're talking about. Have
> you
> > > > seen Festival or Viavoice work?
> > > >
> > > > I spent a couple of hours last night searching google & google groups
> for
> > > > info on getting Festival working with emacspeak. I didn't really find
> > > > anything helpful and the few pages I did find tended to indicate
> there's a
> > > > piece missing. Apparently some intermediate piece you need between
> > > > emacspeak & Festival hasn't been developed yet. But most of what I
> found
> > > > was so vague I couldn't really tell.
> > > >
> > > > I certainly did not find anything where someone said straight out that
> > > they
> > > > use a linux machine with emacspeak & Festival.
> > > >
> > > > My problem is that I need a laptop and I can't figure out how I'm
> going to
> > > > get speech working. It seems to me that dragging along an external
> synth
> > > > would defeat the purpose.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 06:03 PM 3/22/02 +0530, you wrote:
> > > > >I have not got it working on a linux box yet, but i have seen it
> work. It
> > > is
> > > > >good. I think you have binaries for it for linux.
> > > > >
> > > > >Prasad
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Jack Heim" <jheim@facstaff.wisc.edu>
> > > > >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:32 PM
> > > > >Subject: Linux speech w/o special hardware
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone downloaded IBM's Viavoice Outload lately? I downloaded
> it
> > > last
> > > > > > summer but now I can't find it on their web site. I'm wondering if
> it
> > > > >might
> > > > > > have been withdrawn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So then I started poking around on the University of Wisconsin's
> Trace
> > > > > > Center web site. It mentions something called Festival from the
> > > University
> > > > > > of Edinburgh. I was wondering if anyone had gotten that working on
> > > > >standard
> > > > > > hardware, a PC with a sound card.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Re: Linux speech w/o special hardware

[James R. Van Zandt]

In my archives, I found these two messages on emacspeak servers for
Festival.

	    - Jim Van Zandt



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I am also disappointed in the current state of software synthesis.
Programs like Festival and Mbrola produce some of the most realistic
sounding speech that I've heard from a computer.  They are, however, too
slow and slugish to be useful to users of programs like Emacspeak.  I've
been trying to get *some* kind of software synth to be usable enough with
Emacspeak to where I could stop lugging my DecTalk along with my laptop,
but have had little luck.

Bart's Mbrola server is reasonably responsive, but Mbrola has many problems
that cause it to hang on certain phraises.  Other problems with his server
cause seemingly random core dumps.  Further, the Mbrola voice does not seem
to be as responsive as the DecTalk.

I wrote a server that used the Festival speech system, and, while that one
was considerably more stable than Bart's server, the Festival system is far
slower than Mbrola.  No chance of zippping along with Festival as you might
with your DecTalk.

Lastly, I have hacked together a server that uses Rsynth.  Rsynth is older
and takes far less CPU power than either of the two systems already
mentioned.  Rsynth is still far from perfect.  The code could work far
better than it does.  It inserts long pauses between words and pads the
output (both of these detract from its speed).

I've been working to streamline Rsynth in the hopes that it can perform at
least as well as one of the 80's hardware synths.  I will keep the list
posted.

I am disappointed that more oldschool code is not available on this topic.
The old Echo II I used on my Apple IIe back in 1985 was a simple piece of
hardware that was both responsive and understandable (after a time).  The
circuitry on the card could not have been complicated (street price was
$130 back then), and I wonder why more software modeling of these earlier
synths has not been done.  Does anyone know of such code?

With out a software DecTalk for Linux and only high-end diphone
synthesizers available, we may be in for a long wait with regards to usable
software synthesis.

Bryan

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Hello.

As some off you probably know, I am in the process of
writing a Emacspeak Server for Festival.
I am currently multithreading the whole thing to be able
to eliminate commands which wouldn't get spoken (sch as fast scrolling with many q d s q d s q d s series)...
When this is finished (I hope soon, its quite a brainer for me),
the next step will be the voice-lock mode.
I plan to convert the strings emacspeak sends to the speech server
to a SABLE-mark-up text for Festival.

First of all, is this the right way? Or does anyone think that
implementing the SABLE commands in a festival-voices.el would be better?

Ok, if q1 is no, than I seek for help:
I'd like to talk with someone how to map the DECtalk commandset
with all his parameters to apropriate SABLE commands and their parameters.
This can only be well done from the ground up.
I am absolutly not familiar with DECtalk and dont know what those
many parameters (the numbers) mean. Didnt find any good specs anyway..
Something to think about:
SABLE supports: <SPEAKER></SPEAKER>, <RATE></RATE>, <SAYAS></SAYAS>, <AUDIO SRC/>
Thats the main commands to map to.
The speech rate has to be in the range of 1 to 99%.
Speakers are speaker names.
SAYAS can be used for pronounciation and so on.
AUDIO SRC can be used to include Wavforms directly into the spoken text.


Just got another question:
Does anyone know how to reconfigure Emacspeak so that it dosent use
the play program for Auditory Icons. It should use the a and p commands 
and send Auditory Icons to the Speech server.
This would eliminates the "two-soundcards" problem.

And the last question mainly to raman:
Are you planning to implement a pronounce-word command for the speech servers?
When I tell Emacspeak to read the characters of a word it would send:
l {x}
l {y}
l {z}
and so on.
My speech server would send the following to festival:
(tts "<SABLE><SAYAS MODE="literal">x</SAYAS> </SABLE>" 'sable)
(tts "<SABLE><SAYAS MODE="literal">y</SAYAS> </SABLE>" 'sable)
(tts "<SABLE><SAYAS MODE="literal">z</SAYAS> </SABLE>" 'sable)

But if Emacspeak would send a special command for speaking literals of a word, I could convert to:
(tts "<SABLE><SAYAS MODE="literal">xyz</SAYAS> </SABLE>" 'sable)

which would recude overhead alot.

Regards,
       Mario Lang <lang@zid.tu-graz.ac.at>

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