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Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur
package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier
today.
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I have used fenrir git version for a little while and have tried
insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and
even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different
sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle
those sounds.
Originally I was thinking speakup and fenrir were fighting until
checking contents of /etc/fenrir/settings/ out but that's not the case.
It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. What surprised me
though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir
did not use that synthesizer as its default even though
speech-dispatcher got installed before fenrir. Speech-dispatcher speaks
nicely when first started but as keys are typed speech quality degrades
fast to the point where many parts of many words do not get spoken. But
then all of this could be because speech-dispatcher needs configuring.
I downloaded voices for speech-dispatcher and unpacked them and need to
read some more of what I can find on the web pages to get a default
speech-dispatcher voice selected. I want to do that since that probably
helps me get speechd-el working inside emacs too.
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:31:35
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> Subject: fenrir setup?
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> Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur
> package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier
> today.
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Howdy,
> insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and
> even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different
> sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle
> those sounds.
I cannot see this. You can bind whatever key you want as fenrir key. It sound more like an wrong setup i bet to an old python-evdev version.
> It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency.
This is fixed fore some weeks now since i bring fenrir to an event based and multiprocess structure.
What surprised me
> though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir
> did not use that synthesizer as its default even though
Fenrir does use speech-dispacher as default but did not use the defaults of speech-dispacher. It has its own settings to tell speech-dispacher what TTS needs to be used. But when running pulse and speech-dispacher it needs some special setup to configure speech-dispacher for root (as what fenrir is running )pulse to forewart the sound to the user.
Cheers Chrys
Hm speechd-el, sure i dont stop someone to use a software that got about 10 commits in seven years or try to create a good new maintained one. Sure it has bugs but without knowledge of them i cannot fix it. Or we come to the conclusion we dont need another screenreader and i will better spent my sparetime at the bar ;).
Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> I have used fenrir git version for a little while and have tried
> insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and
> even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different
> sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle
> those sounds.
> Originally I was thinking speakup and fenrir were fighting until
> checking contents of /etc/fenrir/settings/ out but that's not the case.
> It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. What surprised me
> though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir
> did not use that synthesizer as its default even though
> speech-dispatcher got installed before fenrir. Speech-dispatcher speaks
> nicely when first started but as keys are typed speech quality degrades
> fast to the point where many parts of many words do not get spoken. But
> then all of this could be because speech-dispatcher needs configuring.
> I downloaded voices for speech-dispatcher and unpacked them and need to
> read some more of what I can find on the web pages to get a default
> speech-dispatcher voice selected. I want to do that since that probably
> helps me get speechd-el working inside emacs too.
>
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:31:35
> > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> > Subject: fenrir setup?
> >
> > Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur
> > package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier
> > today.
> >
> >
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Howdy,
That should be scriptable yes.
Cheers Chrys
Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur
> package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier
> today.
>
>
>
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I got no question when running fenrir-conf about which key to bind to the
fenrir key. I'll do some more reading and figure what to put in the
desktop.conf file to get that working. On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for
blind general discussion wrote:
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:38:31
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: fenrir setup?
>
> Howdy,
>
>> insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and
>> even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different
>> sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle
>> those sounds.
>
> I cannot see this. You can bind whatever key you want as fenrir key. It sound more like an wrong setup i bet to an old python-evdev version.
>
>> It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency.
> This is fixed fore some weeks now since i bring fenrir to an event based and multiprocess structure.
>
> What surprised me
>> though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir
>> did not use that synthesizer as its default even though
>
> Fenrir does use speech-dispacher as default but did not use the defaults of speech-dispacher. It has its own settings to tell speech-dispacher what TTS needs to be used. But when running pulse and speech-dispacher it needs some special setup to configure speech-dispacher for root (as what fenrir is running )pulse to forewart the sound to the user.
>
> Cheers Chrys
>
> Hm speechd-el, sure i dont stop someone to use a software that got about 10 commits in seven years or try to create a good new maintained one. Sure it has bugs but without knowledge of them i cannot fix it. Or we come to the conclusion we dont need another screenreader and i will better spent my sparetime at the bar ;).
>
>
> Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>> I have used fenrir git version for a little while and have tried
>> insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and
>> even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different
>> sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle
>> those sounds.
>> Originally I was thinking speakup and fenrir were fighting until
>> checking contents of /etc/fenrir/settings/ out but that's not the case.
>> It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. What surprised me
>> though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir
>> did not use that synthesizer as its default even though
>> speech-dispatcher got installed before fenrir. Speech-dispatcher speaks
>> nicely when first started but as keys are typed speech quality degrades
>> fast to the point where many parts of many words do not get spoken. But
>> then all of this could be because speech-dispatcher needs configuring.
>> I downloaded voices for speech-dispatcher and unpacked them and need to
>> read some more of what I can find on the web pages to get a default
>> speech-dispatcher voice selected. I want to do that since that probably
>> helps me get speechd-el working inside emacs too.
>>
>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:31:35
>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> Subject: fenrir setup?
>>>
>>> Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur
>>> package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier
>>> today.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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howdy
the fenrir-conf is not ready for master yet. its still on version 1.06
state. its a very basic script to create a settings.conf.
i plan a more enhanced version in fenrir 2.0 (with an nice menu and so on)
for master you need to change the config/settings/settings.conf with an
editor.
you can use any key as fenrir key
as defaults are Keypad 0, insert, and super (or meta, windows key)
fenrirKeys=KEY_KP0,KEY_META,KEY_INSERT
you can use multible keys seperated by comma. the names of the keys are
the same that are used in evdev (linux input event device subsystem)
you can find an unstructured list of possible keys in fenrirs git
/config/keyboard/Readme.md
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/chrys87/fenrir/master/config/keyboard/Readme.md
i hope this helps
cheers chrys
Am 04.08.2017 um 23:19 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> I got no question when running fenrir-conf about which key to bind to
> the fenrir key. I'll do some more reading and figure what to put in
> the desktop.conf file to get that working. On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux
> for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:38:31
>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>> Subject: Re: fenrir setup?
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>>> insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work
>>> and
>>> even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different
>>> sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle
>>> those sounds.
>>
>> I cannot see this. You can bind whatever key you want as fenrir key.
>> It sound more like an wrong setup i bet to an old python-evdev version.
>>
>>> It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency.
>> This is fixed fore some weeks now since i bring fenrir to an event
>> based and multiprocess structure.
>>
>> What surprised me
>>> though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir
>>> did not use that synthesizer as its default even though
>>
>> Fenrir does use speech-dispacher as default but did not use the
>> defaults of speech-dispacher. It has its own settings to tell
>> speech-dispacher what TTS needs to be used. But when running pulse
>> and speech-dispacher it needs some special setup to configure
>> speech-dispacher for root (as what fenrir is running )pulse to
>> forewart the sound to the user.
>>
>> Cheers Chrys
>>
>> Hm speechd-el, sure i dont stop someone to use a software that got
>> about 10 commits in seven years or try to create a good new
>> maintained one. Sure it has bugs but without knowledge of them i
>> cannot fix it. Or we come to the conclusion we dont need another
>> screenreader and i will better spent my sparetime at the bar ;).
>>
>>
>> Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>> I have used fenrir git version for a little while and have tried
>>> insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work
>>> and
>>> even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different
>>> sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle
>>> those sounds.
>>> Originally I was thinking speakup and fenrir were fighting until
>>> checking contents of /etc/fenrir/settings/ out but that's not the case.
>>> It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. What surprised me
>>> though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir
>>> did not use that synthesizer as its default even though
>>> speech-dispatcher got installed before fenrir. Speech-dispatcher speaks
>>> nicely when first started but as keys are typed speech quality degrades
>>> fast to the point where many parts of many words do not get spoken.
>>> But
>>> then all of this could be because speech-dispatcher needs configuring.
>>> I downloaded voices for speech-dispatcher and unpacked them and need to
>>> read some more of what I can find on the web pages to get a default
>>> speech-dispatcher voice selected. I want to do that since that
>>> probably
>>> helps me get speechd-el working inside emacs too.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:31:35
>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> Subject: fenrir setup?
>>>>
>>>> Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git
>>>> aur
>>>> package installed and apparently running on this system a little
>>>> earlier
>>>> today.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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