From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id wAJE8oHv031889 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:08:50 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id 7F1D86012D; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:08:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx17.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.46]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 749A0600D7 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ed1-f54.google.com (mail-ed1-f54.google.com [209.85.208.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A48FD3082E10 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ed1-f54.google.com with SMTP id b14so22958574edt.6 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 06:08:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fIqI98qP9lt9UWqhqfFHE04DoCrNA24staMEkwm2Zbk=; b=XZCuPPamSLf75kHC+n1FzwzpwL1ES6Jx0mRvxKRJ3+emBbZiFjMTAWrWwrqYLMAzGa luacuT+CZaC9NNt2PxTmnngTIraFa26xoNyO9EqD27T/ptwkoEPb9HNJz5hUPBd9KVxp 2OmitFXyiXgtJ8LWjXGPlSbiU9RFG9VWWBUNUOhI/2s/GreJet87pQuWDd6HJpctb4lD ACG7BLdnqWtg7kO2eWfsujSDQw3JaSi1SN3O4FTW7bTCKsXpmXSi+flVZ/HtTpzXSw8C DsT7AAXDXdspkXFpM/c/suOaOWw02+e7WoY4St1l6XIimNGK4CQhXE17rh8Pd1Hhwlno NVhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fIqI98qP9lt9UWqhqfFHE04DoCrNA24staMEkwm2Zbk=; b=SNyg15SHAzjimhhN693oYbc79bdIq3NunFrcLrozT5PzlO0soWGVsHJTD5PY0tiw44 QwFVWbNDtU2Qtfaun3VZMOW620AEDqOkaVayoL2VSrozqYbTWtSg4nAcECrVWetMxrO6 nfbl0dlXXn0pXq7JzMirRSfjoGvLPH384/dBOfd2Lp++28G/gcmS2gMYqTjK7cIgFd5d PfnZpdFjL7/GQ60DKc3pTydjGmajHcOWMWkuSZmi+ErlevF3aFvlEE3QZsu0McRan67o /NPnFWdbZk/J150x2duF/L+TF6MVI8/AeLeeCJWW+MDvh33KgqN+gU00iYfuGDfwgJgW noAA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJIxoIZBagcaHA69HxbEkjMtFCztTPUB+lIazmLUhG+2G9z9XbI hzHQ84YAbQgKPVPBvKZbiCH3VkBWGO0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eap2mN/pOpanDjpkUIRc1e0J0Mil1F9Hl76GZ7TF+qaI7wdUYgpDVpJk8d8Aeh3k1cxvQ9ug== X-Received: by 2002:a50:d84d:: with SMTP id v13mr15868984edj.103.1542636525076; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 06:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2606:a000:111a:8a8c::89c? (cpe-2606-A000-111A-8A8C-0-0-0-89C.dyn6.twc.com. [2606:a000:111a:8a8c::89c]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x90sm2016953ede.35.2018.11.19.06.08.43 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 06:08:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: clean mate desktop To: blinux-list@redhat.com References: <18e5541b-f2d3-2a6b-684f-9a8d2458ae7a@gmail.com> <775660b0-264f-3650-a994-73dd3755d33c@hypra.fr> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:08:42 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux aarch64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <775660b0-264f-3650-a994-73dd3755d33c@hypra.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.46]); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:08:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.46]); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:08:46 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'209.85.208.54' DOMAIN:'mail-ed1-f54.google.com' HELO:'mail-ed1-f54.google.com' FROM:'kyle4jesus@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -0.111 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_PASS) 209.85.208.54 mail-ed1-f54.google.com 209.85.208.54 mail-ed1-f54.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.110.46 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:08:50 -0000 Arch has the latest and cleanest version of MATE that works with Orca. Fedora is probably the next closest, but needs a lot of tweaking to make it work with Orca, whereas its GNOME version works out of the box. If you're trying to follow development of clean MATE, Arch is the way to go, as they just package upstream without patches. Debian and Ubuntu are both heavily patched, and tend to be old. So if you need to report a bug, it's harder to report them to the MATE developers, since it's possible your bug has already been fixed, but hasn't yet filtered down to your distro.