From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: blinux-list at redhat.com (Linux for blind general discussion) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 19:34:41 +0000 Subject: Has anyone gotten i3 accessible yet? or is there a better option besides ratpoison, which is great, btw In-Reply-To: <9559c617-742a-eb76-e2b6-f9339fcbefac@panix.com> References: <291bcc92-8153-06b1-5831-937bb8d7f289@gmail.com> <9559c617-742a-eb76-e2b6-f9339fcbefac@panix.com> Message-ID: List-Id: I've had success with Strychnine set up to start LXDE or XFCE instead of Ratpoison, but i3/Stumpwm/Sway seem to not work nicely with Orca. THe memory usage for LXDE/Ratpoison seem, at least for me, similarish enough. Okay LXDE has issues but it is lighter than Mate, LXQT's a little heavier and needs a bit more tweaking and XFCE's another option, even if personally I don't like XFCE's menu layout. See if I? could miror Ratpoison's jump to a window with mod4+number setup, I'd be set, out of the box without a ton of fiddlingsimilarish, On 2/9/22 17:09, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > I think the solution is to get xfce accessible and combined with ratpoison > and strychnine on some of this old hardware there might be room for orca > to work well. > > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> I think the point of wanting an accessible ratpoison, i3, etc. setup >> is that Gnome and Mate are both fairly hefty environments in terms of >> resource usage, and Orca, if you'll pardon the pun, is a whale of a >> resource user itself while these alternative window managers are >> designed to be as lightweight as their creators could manage. >> >> One of Linux's appeals is breathing new life into old hardware, and >> there are many machines that would choke on modern Windows and could >> handle either Gnome/Mate or Orca, but can't handle both Gnome/Mate and >> Orca and still have enough resources left over for running apps with >> acceptable performance. And since the only real alternative to Orca is >> ditch the GUI and do everything in the console, the focus for putting >> an accessible desktop on old machines tends to be onstripping out >> unused parts of the desktop environment and switching the vital >> components to lighter weight alternatives. >> >> Also, as its name suggests, ratpoison is built from the ground up with >> a keyboard-only, no mouse setup in mind, and blind users tend to fall >> into the category of users who don't like using a mouse. >> >> Anyways, I myself am using the fast, light window manager(flwm)... but >> I can't really speak to its accessibility since my setup doesn't >> include anything remotely resembling a full desktop. Firefox is the >> only graphical application I use and I launch it via a script I did >> not write and understand next to nothing of how it works that >> basically gives me Firefox+orca running as a kiosk on top of >> flwm(though, while a true kiosk would prevent closing Firefox, on my >> setup, closing firefox ends the xsession and drops back to the >> console. The script uses compiz as its default Window manager, but >> changing which window manager it uses is the one thing I've figured >> out, and flwm was just the smallest window manager I tried that worked >> as a drop in replacement... and even then, Firefox+Orca are such a >> Behemoth and Leviathan combo that some websites(or having many tabs >> open) slow my 4GB Ram, i7 20-something-hundred machine to a crawl(My >> system drive being platter based probably doesn't help matters >> either). >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list at redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >