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[71.182.193.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p4sm5072256qtd.55.2018.03.02.13.34.15 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Mar 2018 13:34:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 16:34:14 -0500 (EST) To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: Screen reader advice for a Linux sysadmin Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (OSX 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]); Fri, 02 Mar 2018 21:34:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]); Fri, 02 Mar 2018 21:34:17 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'209.85.216.170' DOMAIN:'mail-qt0-f170.google.com' HELO:'mail-qt0-f170.google.com' FROM:'dandunfee@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -0.13 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_PASS) 209.85.216.170 mail-qt0-f170.google.com 209.85.216.170 mail-qt0-f170.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.31 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.15 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 21:34:22 -0000 Voiceover can be made to act exactly like speakup using the numpad keys. On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Oh, yes, one can do this with Voice Over, but it's so very, very > cumbersome compared to using Speakup's numeric keypad screen review. > > I just don't have all day to fuss with VO. Just my experience. > > Janina > > Linux for blind general discussion writes: > > -eric, > > > > I honestly do not have any special software or configerations to interact with the Unix console. I have noticed that each person who is having issues with the Mac terminal have in common. Remember Voiceover requires that you use the VoiceOver keys to navigate the VoiceOver cursor. It is similar to the flat review in Linux but uses different keys. You have to hold down the CTRL + CMD keys to move the cursor. In addition to these keys you have to make sure you are interacting with the terminal window. VoiceOver requires that you are "interacting" with windows for VoiceOver to read the contents of that window. To do this you press the Shift key + CTRL + CMD + the down arrow. In terms of the terminal window you would listen for "Shell" and perform the interaction command. From this point you would use the VoiceOver navigation commands to move around the stdout including the man pages. > > > > To interact with the man pages simply execute the man page you are interested in then use the above commands to read it. Once you have read the currently displayed page you would press the space bar to bring up the next section of the man page. You can tell if there is additional pages not being displayed because at the bottom there will be a : displayed letting you know there are more pages to show. To exit the man pages you would simply type the letter q. I typically will execute this command to have more control of the man docs and can review them later. > > $ man grep >> grep.txt > > > > I am sure you understand what that is doing but in case someone does not it is basically redirecting the stdout from the man command to a file named grep.txt. I then will use vim or cat to read the documentation. Hope this helps > > Bryan Duarte | software engineer > > > > ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student > > IGERT Fellow > > Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology (APAcT) > > Center for Cognitive Ubiquitous Computing (CUbiC Lab) > > National Federation of the Blind of Arizona | Affiliate Board Member > > National Association of Blind Students | Board Member > > Arizona Association of Blind Students | President > > Phone: 480-652-3045 > > > > > On Feb 28, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > > > > -eric > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > -- XB