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[71.182.193.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d36sm3553004qtk.47.2018.03.01.11.48.37 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Mar 2018 11:48:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:48:34 -0500 (EST) To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: Screen reader advice for a Linux sysadmin Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (OSX 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:48:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:48:38 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'209.85.220.170' DOMAIN:'mail-qk0-f170.google.com' HELO:'mail-qk0-f170.google.com' FROM:'dandunfee@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -0.13 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_PASS) 209.85.220.170 mail-qk0-f170.google.com 209.85.220.170 mail-qk0-f170.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.27 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.14 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:48:43 -0000 Here are the major adjustments I fund useful for using voiceover in terminal on a mac as a ssh base: 1. in vo preferences have all cursors follow each other, including the mouse cursor. 2. when in terminal go into text interaction mode. 3. Use the standard mac navigation and vo speech command key combinations to work anywhere on the visible screen. For example, vo + home goes to the top of the screen, vo + end to the bottom. Vo plus s for the current sentence, l for line and p for paragraph. Vo +a read the screen starting with cursor position. Many of these and more an be found by invoking the vo help menu with vo + h. 4. use vo key commanders to make custom navigation and speech commands with fewer key combinations and strokes. This is done in vo preferences. Key commanders are used with an option key combined with a character, including punctuation, and including those on the numpad if you have one; of one's choice whichh are less complex then the default key combinations. Many of the built in key commander default choices determine how speech works, as well as navigation and many default os functions. They can also be attached to apple scripts. An example of the latter, instead of having seperate commands to go to the top of the screen, move down one line to avoid the title line and start to read the entire screen. These can be made one key commander which evokes an apple script that performs the above sequence of navigation and speech commands. On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 08:31:23AM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > > > >I concur with using a mac as a ssh base. The bsd based terminal can > >be made much more accessable using the mac's native voiceover with a > >few minor system configuration changes. > > Which changes are necessary to make the textbased terminal work better > with VoiceOver? With the default settings VO support for the terminal is > not really good IMHO and everything I tried didn't it make better :-(. > > I'd really like to use my Mac to administrate my Linux servers at work > via ssh, write scripts or edit config files with vi on the servers, > e.g., but all those things are not possible because VO looses the focus > while writing commands in the shell or editing files wit vi, keeps > hanging when much output is provided by a system and so on. > > Every hint which makes things better in the terminal is highly wellcome > :-). > > Cheers and thanks, > > Schoepp > > -- XB