From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.3]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 02RGKSN8012498 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 12:20:29 -0400 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id B366410551AF; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 16:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast01.extmail.prod.ext.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.55.17]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFCDC10551AA for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 16:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us-smtp-1.mimecast.com (us-smtp-1.mimecast.com [205.139.110.61]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B4B4802BF2 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 16:20:26 +0000 (UTC) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dkim.mimecast.com; s=201903; t=1585326025; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v8jSGUmotgyTs5C5zcuqniByESUrJ8WiKZECqCUA3S0=; b=O2fqfEUiMCwz/4Zkk8IQSJWbPEB6evh3HelIG/6FLbg5362Hxb7V8GIPr3U0cbj+zpI46t 0b08adTutapE7TyhU1yMfnoAKSwV+iMwzDhNjIzvpoVI35b11Gi7YhMYEu98hEtHfCpI23 sb2I2zvz6fI/YdeMSrVH0IuQ2BbPu3mlhIl8R5DWvr5f24NgnDQLM5HaNdweKbBlGhFGcB 6biMDxd8OnN+sry5GcZsHC+wFoT+emaM+1AT2IaR58W2cMHABfh9j1qE/oSebyg11aqTWl Sq3lT5riH407t15ugxHog2MLqR6JxX+j/HyoP/Jm2bE42HH6yzehqEQ8x7GIPg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=201903; d=dkim.mimecast.com; t=1585326025; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=TfvrzRwKxT3UXaDCsLmsyeogLBXtI6qlE8Fsa5kvpT2Se8UHREWRfLl2r5g8T6pWYAkq7K Zbz5EHep6AcqBRBN6XN/PvarorKd73hQplj3+SWcJne1fClmPBYjQLDlFaEwRZQh4G7CjU XUORzaMzrJEKP0QzwpgnDSIm2rdnPQMoK2eYT6kENBRQ383lYkTb+LJKkbWHzZcxqlTkOn a6/gZ8/uWcGvQceq2C4pCAKLP8zuopHFIgJfW4IQi1GPB486oN6OcnZ6YnsBQbZaqkf977 1ZSun3CWsQX1W2Ter3Jst9QVqV1iaJYnqslNz2MndYfNX0V8i9CBnpXpWbiDXg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; relay.mimecast.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (relay.mimecast.com: domain of jdashiel@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jdashiel@panix.com Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-162-uxtkaQGUP8Ckc58RrePz1g-1; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 12:20:23 -0400 X-MC-Unique: uxtkaQGUP8Ckc58RrePz1g-1 Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48pnBt53Lqz1VLx; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 12:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by panix1.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20712) id 48pnBt4GVtzcbc; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 12:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panix1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48pnBt48BlzcbV; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 12:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 12:20:22 -0400 To: orca-list@gnome.org Subject: installing jenux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (relay.mimecast.com: domain of jdashiel@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jdashiel@panix.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.11.54.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com id 02RGKSN8012498 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Cc: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 16:20:29 -0000 During a jenux install jenux uses fenrir for a screen reader if accessibility mode is enabled. No boot parameters enables accessibility mode. During jenux install, much fast text will be spoken by the screen reader unless insert-f4 is used to toggle speech off and on. I usually toggle speech off until I hear the computer beep and then I know jenux installer needs some input. Then I toggle speech back on and inspect the screen and answer questions. In the mate install path, there's no beep before the system asks for the user name and password for the first time and this is after all packages have been installed. Those questions could be moved ahead of package installation and answers stored in and retrieved from variables but that's not now the case with this installer. I got a mate install with jenux and you log in on the console which is good with fenrir then fenrir turns off and the mate environment comes up and orca turns on. I've done a base install with no difficulty earlier. I will try a gnome install next to see if that now works. When these installs fail it's usually because the developer is working on what fails to download so when that happens maybe try another install later. The base install which is archlinux console uses fenrir to run. --