From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.4]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 01IHistB005831 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:44:54 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id 935122063206; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast06.extmail.prod.ext.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.55.22]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E9072026D67 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us-smtp-1.mimecast.com (us-smtp-2.mimecast.com [205.139.110.61]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C32818AE962 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:44:52 +0000 (UTC) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dkim.mimecast.com; s=201903; t=1582047892; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=rIj6JDtOAzUAuSxK/Cck0Atn7f1rozTQ9GHH5bfCDks=; b=NvUcb7r3EQVAjwI0VWB+ulki1UPaDOZKXRm81IAv5W6wRMpCQLyBw12EpKiEirGyqYMh2W KuSBcRIp05Vrss5qGhgcJInrzCRFl39FQo5hpl4I7lCtyTgW0WbqgoO57lk0MWM6Kff7AT lhEhMoWeclL6MvTOA/FP9jhTt97CZpgKOHP02gRgn9ULGwJHATEuu3uv0rM4Gvu83ZRCXD eHh2ql0vqr7YPAGXCL3VzE1CSU07TnEMXLElmYcwioWadUej4U4PjkK+hItsRZxpJ05A4t xT9qJR8bkTzc3qX9Ju1HH0v5QGZzfziGIp2mZnskr/vEEdrArbcXAqp3R/EquQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=201903; d=dkim.mimecast.com; t=1582047892; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=PRtylR9AXV8oxYe158ClbJRCJKvSjO0zdqWV+vS22hJfK0ZyR+1TYE6WU2Hi/kKhU96mNt 4qnH6gRAQmua00BlG5RJo5y/4B9epl/R3qIowjbmvdvLUuxFxj44lLtpC5/fRSNz0fSo0v m/DQ8y5vWNz+N5pjeaDvnSaegrEBURNRk4tEaDxe6IyWBbexgEOncRk5l2Mm0qLHRbtA3B Ch6rA8h1DjU32IR8JRqj6y1noJDtAY9J0IeqWfdepUpvpqvssppshwG8+XnAsrHJQ0MQV4 eNCn2/OFApET1QPFWQCkqNeEBx0Op/1p/Fx+vuvKahx6OYOqBSSRxwGR1Bb1LQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; relay.mimecast.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (relay.mimecast.com: domain of jdashiel@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jdashiel@panix.com Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-342-wZfOLHz2NluVPJNpYiVL-g-1; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:44:49 -0500 Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48MSss2hnrzyJj for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by panix1.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20712) id 48MSss0Fd9zcbc; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panix1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48MSss077bzcbW for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:44:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:44:48 -0500 To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: early warning I hope In-Reply-To: <9142de9b-16ea-7859-727f-c9790df49de6@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <9142de9b-16ea-7859-727f-c9790df49de6@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MC-Unique: wZfOLHz2NluVPJNpYiVL-g-1 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (relay.mimecast.com: domain of jdashiel@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jdashiel@panix.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.11.54.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com id 01IHistB005831 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:44:55 -0000 mkinitpo with mostly default grub only thing modified in grub was to enable the TUNE line. On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:21:56 > From: Linux for blind general discussion > To: blinux-list@redhat.com > Subject: Re: early warning I hope > > hello blinux. > > disclaimer: since I am a?TalkingArch > maintainer my opinion may be biased. > > > Sorry but Archlinux is not something to use for someone blind using Linux, > > I disagree with that. Arch is perhaps more complicated than other > distributions, but with due diligence, it gives much more functionality. > also from accessibility points of view: the latest versions of packages > and the minimum number of downstream patches are of great benefit. > > > I just ran a kernel update a few minutes ago on archlinux and tried > > rebooting.I can assure you that this is an isolated problem on your side. I have several machines and a server on the arch. and I didn?t have such problems. > to help I need to know: which bootloader you are using and preferably > its configs. > > > Sincerely, Alexander > > 18.02.2020 15:32, Linux for blind general discussion ?????: > > Sorry but Archlinux is not something to use for someone blind using Linux, > > Debian stable maybe with backports, appimages, flatpaks and snaps packages > > if needed would be better with Mate having Compiz under if low vision, > > gnome-orca, brltty, espeak and so on are obviously recommended. > > > > Debian testing is also an option but I would avoid if possible. > > > > Ubuntu Mate however has the top out-of-the-box accessibility at a point > > that blind users could nearly install linux alone without any help, their > > mate menu from solus I think give them their edge, I wonder if Debian could > > use it. > > > > I was working on linux accessibility without being a coder, I tried to get > > vinux and sonar linux team or similar to move to a debian base hoping to > > add a few features that I kept hidden since I need to push a result as a > > whole to fix various Linux issues. > > > > Until then I sadly have to avoid to contribute or I would just make it > > worse. > > > > Le mar. 18 f?vr. 2020 04:07, Linux for blind general discussion < > > blinux-list@redhat.com> a ?crit : > > > >> I just ran a kernel update a few minutes ago on archlinux and tried > >> rebooting. > >> Some uuid cannot be found and I got thrown into an emergency shell. All > >> of this of course without screen reader working. > >> I found this out as a result of talking to a be my eyes volunteer on the > >> phone after she examined my screen. > >> I have no idea what caused that and have minimal usb stuff connected to > >> the computer. I had disconnected a flash drive from the computer thinking > >> the flash drive was the cause of the missing uuid but that wasn't the > >> case. > >> Fortunately I use solid state drives and have another different system on > >> one of them or I'd be offline for a while. > >> The volunteer didn't read me the long number after that uuid error. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list --