From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.4]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 01IH4aGp003442 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:04:36 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id 4F2DD206320F; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast02.extmail.prod.ext.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.55.18]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 483C92063209 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us-smtp-1.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-1.mimecast.com [205.139.110.120]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15D5C8028B8 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:04:34 +0000 (UTC) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dkim.mimecast.com; s=201903; t=1582045473; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=HTnBlgae/V8kBMD2kTJ1j44OnaSg/iZB3nOzq9unV9A=; b=ra3vyJXeD1SrU1nV+gaG6UE54a1L9X+8jB+AlKF5SJfdBgCFqzfgW/aoJLp2/OjnIHsBmv ApB/Z1PFL8XsZKPpAC8lSyklmRwdTEa6eo294qWuaW52lnMuBGCwce2r1UGEQJv7474kho rnGP6z32MOm6RZyC6BQewslnDfZ+4fNw09zew5V83t2jubi9u97gm1vYQdZYHzHiKR0Em9 nUFqJs6UWJ5hey7xCOQ7SVh6ICig6AEp0Tn8mzBK7WNu1P8/S/GAzTngsyxgM06GlLR4RH KEJLCoPdQbJ+t15HyfvciUGnQKkKWZQnR6xWdczZwMTC+ZYFVCGeQM5NLgdH/A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=201903; d=dkim.mimecast.com; t=1582045473; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=S2+tZu5diCRWeTYKNdSaOM8tweEXsa4usG0SJZNbhx7Geq9MwS6HCT/XV2N93WzgWxjDFN cjO9n/lcykg50pNnigkLlUnENGN7XynJZg7pzXYq5SIufNQaBMJYsOX9S6KmrIshQsxk8f 516b/pY1LDDNfnIEz9InxzOdigRF/FAL5aEG80Bgn1oxWtYF2+sgWFg07ApRp4tx4HH5Li oz+V8cDy26O2bgorj5Ll7ihCybtkGBZvjM47kZt+kYuYDzPurn+obIGhbbpM3xVox7PFxh 1k20hnFkWWfhnM6PYpmqBHu6YCyP41TifVomQs4vO6MGlL0eU7epMtzSTszXiw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; relay.mimecast.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (relay.mimecast.com: domain of jdashiel@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jdashiel@panix.com Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-8-GkILq4MKPtmNw4DiehGBSg-1; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:04:31 -0500 Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48MRzM19ZJzv0l for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by panix1.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20712) id 48MRzL6ZQdzcbc; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panix1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48MRzL68CPzcbW for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:04:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:04:30 -0500 To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: early warning I hope In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MC-Unique: GkILq4MKPtmNw4DiehGBSg-1 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (relay.mimecast.com: domain of jdashiel@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jdashiel@panix.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.11.54.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com id 01IH4aGp003442 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:04:36 -0000 Garbage! For most of the time I have had excellent operating results with archlinux and I'm not unique in the blind community on this count either. It breaks only occassionally and losOts less often than Windows. Windows can't even figure out the proper order to install its updates when those become available. n Tue, 18 Feb 2020, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 07:32:04 > From: Linux for blind general discussion > To: blinux-list > Subject: Re: early warning I hope > > Sorry but Archlinux is not something to use for someone blind using Linux, > Debian stable maybe with backports, appimages, flatpaks and snaps packages > if needed would be better with Mate having Compiz under if low vision, > gnome-orca, brltty, espeak and so on are obviously recommended. > > Debian testing is also an option but I would avoid if possible. > > Ubuntu Mate however has the top out-of-the-box accessibility at a point > that blind users could nearly install linux alone without any help, their > mate menu from solus I think give them their edge, I wonder if Debian could > use it. > > I was working on linux accessibility without being a coder, I tried to get > vinux and sonar linux team or similar to move to a debian base hoping to > add a few features that I kept hidden since I need to push a result as a > whole to fix various Linux issues. > > Until then I sadly have to avoid to contribute or I would just make it > worse. > > Le mar. 18 f?vr. 2020 04:07, Linux for blind general discussion < > blinux-list@redhat.com> a ?crit : > > > I just ran a kernel update a few minutes ago on archlinux and tried > > rebooting. > > Some uuid cannot be found and I got thrown into an emergency shell. All > > of this of course without screen reader working. > > I found this out as a result of talking to a be my eyes volunteer on the > > phone after she examined my screen. > > I have no idea what caused that and have minimal usb stuff connected to > > the computer. I had disconnected a flash drive from the computer thinking > > the flash drive was the cause of the missing uuid but that wasn't the > > case. > > Fortunately I use solid state drives and have another different system on > > one of them or I'd be offline for a while. > > The volunteer didn't read me the long number after that uuid error. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list --