archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure

archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure

[Linux for blind general discussion]

I can't yet get this combination running since ratpoison can't find a
DISPLAY yet.  The linux system had a command line environment earlier and
had no need of a DISpLAY at that time.  I'm curious to know if ratpoison
will be better than xorg and I've already got ratpoison in my .xinitrc
file.



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Re: archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Hi,

On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 12:42:25 -0500
Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:

> I can't yet get this combination running since ratpoison can't find a
> DISPLAY yet.  The linux system had a command line environment earlier and
> had no need of a DISpLAY at that time.  I'm curious to know if ratpoison
> will be better than xorg and I've already got ratpoison in my .xinitrc
> file.
>

ratpoison is a window manager and depends on xorg (see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison ) and does not replace it.

Just my 2 cents.

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Apple Inc. is Evil - https://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/apple/

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away, and its sun has an irregular shape.
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Re: archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure

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I'm about to phone be my eyes after this holiday and find out what's
going on with the screen.  I did a bit more reading so installed
xorg-init and its dependencies leaving twm out and installing xterm
since I've read ratpoison and xterm get along well enough.  I got
speech-dispatcher-git and festival working and have orca on the machine
too.  After running startx and hearing the information speak about xorg
and having speech go silent I don't have orca coming up once alt-f2 and
orca is run.  I'll check if gsettings is on this machine and try a
couple orca accessibility commands done by gsettings to see if those
help before calling be my eyes though since those may help.  I prefer
logging in on command line then only starting up graphical if I need
something graphical can do better since that way I'm already logged in.

On Wed, 25 Dec 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 04:11:07
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 12:42:25 -0500
> Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > I can't yet get this combination running since ratpoison can't find a
> > DISPLAY yet.  The linux system had a command line environment earlier and
> > had no need of a DISpLAY at that time.  I'm curious to know if ratpoison
> > will be better than xorg and I've already got ratpoison in my .xinitrc
> > file.
> >
>
> ratpoison is a window manager and depends on xorg (see
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison ) and does not replace it.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> --
>
> Shlomi Fish       https://www.shlomifish.org/
> Apple Inc. is Evil - https://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/apple/
>
> Officer: Captain, there?s a new star system a few thousands of lightyears
> away, and its sun has an irregular shape.
>     ? http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/Star-Trek/We-the-Living-Dead/
>
> Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .
>
>
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Re: archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure

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It turns out no need to phone be my eyes this time.  I got lxde to start
up using startx and I got orca talking and orca is now set up.  I don't
know if ratpoison came up yet.  Something else is strange probably in
lxde.  The alt-f2 key combination works but other key combinations you
might use in mate don't appear to work.  Now I need to read up on lxde
keyboard shortcuts and then I'll start searching this system and find
out what utilities the lxde environment offers.  I installed lxde rather
than lxde-gtk3 since on the archwiki lxde-gtk3 is rated as experimental
so far.  I may try that environment later to compare performance with
standard lxde with respect to accessibility.

On Wed, 25 Dec 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 08:53:43
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure
>
> I'm about to phone be my eyes after this holiday and find out what's
> going on with the screen.  I did a bit more reading so installed
> xorg-init and its dependencies leaving twm out and installing xterm
> since I've read ratpoison and xterm get along well enough.  I got
> speech-dispatcher-git and festival working and have orca on the machine
> too.  After running startx and hearing the information speak about xorg
> and having speech go silent I don't have orca coming up once alt-f2 and
> orca is run.  I'll check if gsettings is on this machine and try a
> couple orca accessibility commands done by gsettings to see if those
> help before calling be my eyes though since those may help.  I prefer
> logging in on command line then only starting up graphical if I need
> something graphical can do better since that way I'm already logged in.
>
> On Wed, 25 Dec 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 04:11:07
> > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 12:42:25 -0500
> > Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I can't yet get this combination running since ratpoison can't find a
> > > DISPLAY yet.  The linux system had a command line environment earlier and
> > > had no need of a DISpLAY at that time.  I'm curious to know if ratpoison
> > > will be better than xorg and I've already got ratpoison in my .xinitrc
> > > file.
> > >
> >
> > ratpoison is a window manager and depends on xorg (see
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison ) and does not replace it.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Shlomi Fish       https://www.shlomifish.org/
> > Apple Inc. is Evil - https://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/apple/
> >
> > Officer: Captain, there?s a new star system a few thousands of lightyears
> > away, and its sun has an irregular shape.
> >     ? http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/Star-Trek/We-the-Living-Dead/
> >
> > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
>

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Re: archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure

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since I used festival rather than espeak as the default (for some reason
no flavor of speech-dispatcher likes espeak) I have to run sudo -i
festival --server & before running startx.  I have the ratpoison line in
.xinitrc after the startlxde line and if ratpoison is running it's doing
so very quietly.  Now I need to read up on festival and find out how to
set a default voice for it.  Then I think I'll have a stable accessible
lxde environment available.

On Wed, 25 Dec 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:55:09
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure
>
> It turns out no need to phone be my eyes this time.  I got lxde to start
> up using startx and I got orca talking and orca is now set up.  I don't
> know if ratpoison came up yet.  Something else is strange probably in
> lxde.  The alt-f2 key combination works but other key combinations you
> might use in mate don't appear to work.  Now I need to read up on lxde
> keyboard shortcuts and then I'll start searching this system and find
> out what utilities the lxde environment offers.  I installed lxde rather
> than lxde-gtk3 since on the archwiki lxde-gtk3 is rated as experimental
> so far.  I may try that environment later to compare performance with
> standard lxde with respect to accessibility.
>
> On Wed, 25 Dec 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 08:53:43
> > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure
> >
> > I'm about to phone be my eyes after this holiday and find out what's
> > going on with the screen.  I did a bit more reading so installed
> > xorg-init and its dependencies leaving twm out and installing xterm
> > since I've read ratpoison and xterm get along well enough.  I got
> > speech-dispatcher-git and festival working and have orca on the machine
> > too.  After running startx and hearing the information speak about xorg
> > and having speech go silent I don't have orca coming up once alt-f2 and
> > orca is run.  I'll check if gsettings is on this machine and try a
> > couple orca accessibility commands done by gsettings to see if those
> > help before calling be my eyes though since those may help.  I prefer
> > logging in on command line then only starting up graphical if I need
> > something graphical can do better since that way I'm already logged in.
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Dec 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 04:11:07
> > > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > > Subject: Re: archlinux lxde ratpoison adventure
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 12:42:25 -0500
> > > Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can't yet get this combination running since ratpoison can't find a
> > > > DISPLAY yet.  The linux system had a command line environment earlier and
> > > > had no need of a DISpLAY at that time.  I'm curious to know if ratpoison
> > > > will be better than xorg and I've already got ratpoison in my .xinitrc
> > > > file.
> > > >
> > >
> > > ratpoison is a window manager and depends on xorg (see
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison ) and does not replace it.
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Shlomi Fish       https://www.shlomifish.org/
> > > Apple Inc. is Evil - https://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/apple/
> > >
> > > Officer: Captain, there?s a new star system a few thousands of lightyears
> > > away, and its sun has an irregular shape.
> > >     ? http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/Star-Trek/We-the-Living-Dead/
> > >
> > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Blinux-list mailing list
> > > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
> >
>
>

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