From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx07.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.22]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id wB60cXXT010370 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 19:38:34 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id E7ABC101963C; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 00:38:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx04.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.28]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEF521019626 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 00:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE0388046F for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 00:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1FA1CF6C for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 19:38:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by panix1.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20712) id D618D14B64; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 19:38:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panix1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D004C14B62 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 19:38:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 19:38:27 -0500 To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: Booting Linux with No Video card In-Reply-To: <20181206.002711.603.4@[192.168.1.146]> Message-ID: References: <20181205.212122.046.2@[192.168.1.146]> <10dcfffb1c7ce34509792847ceb7226d@ijn2.net> <20181205.223718.433.3@[192.168.1.146]> <49cb37b3528c353c6c8fafea7d6c459c@ijn2.net> <20181206.002711.603.4@[192.168.1.146]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, Sender IP whitelisted by DNSRBL, ACL 216 matched, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.28]); Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:38:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.28]); Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:38:28 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'166.84.1.89' DOMAIN:'mailbackend.panix.com' HELO:'mailbackend.panix.com' FROM:'jdashiel@panix.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -2.301 (RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_PASS) 166.84.1.89 mailbackend.panix.com 166.84.1.89 mailbackend.panix.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.28 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.22 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:38:34 -0000 If you can use the braille display to enter text on the computer the port on which the braille display lives would be your console. If the braille display cannot send commands to the computer or text, you have two different ports and I don't know how that could be accommodated. On Wed, 5 Dec 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 19:27:11 > From: Linux for blind general discussion > To: blinux-list@redhat.com > Subject: Re: Booting Linux with No Video card > > Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > I have a feeling you haven't provided enough information for anyone to > > help. Unfortunately it is quite normal on this list. > > > > Please try to tell exactly what you are trying to accomplish with what > > exact hardware setup and scenario. > > > Trying to install Debian on a new system. When I said, debian prompt, I was referring to the boot prompt observed when booting a USB stick or cd. This usually consists of the distribution name and optionally a prompt to type commands. > The board does not have integrated video, at all. When the USB stick is plugged in (or boot cd inserted), the computer just sits there, doing nothing. > Having observed similar behavior from another system, it was clear that video hardware is required. Immediately upon inserting a video card into the previous system, everything worked as normal. > The reason I wrote was because subsequent to my previous experience, I found out that Linux could be fooled into thinking there was video hardware present when, in fact, there isn't. I knew it could be fooled into thinking there was a monitor present, but someone informed me that linux also did not necessarily need video hardware either. Unfortunately, the evidence he gave confirmed my own information; that is, editing xorg.conf to use xorg-video-dummy-x86 or similar. This is way ahead of where I am, as there is no xorg yet and we are still at trying to boot a linux USB stick or cd. > I am using a braille display and, as previously stated, I saw no indication that the stick (or cd) had booted appear on the display. The computer just sat, humming to itself. > I went ahead and ordered a cheap video PCI card, but I was curious to know if Linux could be fooled into running without it. It appears, however, that it can't. At least, not here. It was a generic question (can linux do this?) and not necessarily hardware specific. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > --