From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v5NGdgiU018648 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:39:42 -0400 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id CDDEB53C69; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx07.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5B4E6BF60 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45E9EC01F264 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:39:37 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 45E9EC01F264 Authentication-Results: ext-mx07.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=panix.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx07.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=jdashiel@panix.com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mx1.redhat.com 45E9EC01F264 Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD9310DC6 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by panix1.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20712) id 4195214B9D; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panix1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411FF14B98 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:39:36 -0400 (EDT) To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: text browsers and current web standards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (NEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, Sender IP whitelisted by DNSRBL, ACL 203 matched, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]); Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:39:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]); Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:39:37 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'166.84.1.89' DOMAIN:'mailbackend.panix.com' HELO:'mailbackend.panix.com' FROM:'jdashiel@panix.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 1.169 * (BAYES_99, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_PASS, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD) 166.84.1.89 mailbackend.panix.com 166.84.1.89 mailbackend.panix.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.31 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:39:43 -0000 edbrowse does support some javascript but not the whole set if memory serves. On Fri, 23 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 08:31:34 > From: Linux for blind general discussion > To: blinux-list@redhat.com > Subject: Re: text browsers and current web standards > > As much as I think every web "standard" aside from vanilla HTML should > be avoided unless absolutely necessary(and even then, why use HTML if > plain text can get the job done?), I agree it's a necessary evil to > have the means of dealing with pages made by those who put eye candy > and fancy layouts before content and ease of use(seriously, some > websites make me wonder if whoever designed the UI even knows what a > keyboard is). I mean, in web terms, JavaScript is as old as dirt, yet > as far as I know, there is no text mode browser with even partial > javascript support, and while I have NoScript in my Firefox to block > all that JavaScript that likes to trip up Orca, some sites are > completely unusable without the monstrosity. > > Anyways, as Aptitude isn't getting any hit for clifox even after > adding contrib and non-free to my sources.list, mind providing a link > to more information or perhaps a link to download a development build? > I suspect a hypothetical modern text browser with it's own backend > would be much smaller, but being able to use Firefox from the terminal > and get rid of Orca and what of my xserver Firefox doesn't force me to > install would definitely be a step in the right direction as far as > I'm concerned. > > --