an old artic transport

an old artic transport

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since I've seem some talk here about hardware synths, I've got an old artic transport that I'd like to get working.  I'd be using it in the console with vinux and speechd-up
Where could I find drivers if I'd even need them.  Basically, how would I set it up once I have it connected.
Thanks.  I'll have my serial cable tomorrow hopefully, but definitely by wednesday, so would like to have some info to go on by then.

Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

Re: an old artic transport

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Speechd-up is for software speech using speech-dispatcher. 
Speech-dispatcher currently has no code for a hardware speech 
synthesizer. Your best bet is to try to find the correct Speakup driver 
for your Transport and modprobe it. I'm not familiar with the hardware 
synthesizer modules in Speakup, as I only ever used ltlk I think it was 
and dtk, also a guess, since it's been so long. I thought there was a 
module called txp or txprt or something for the Transport, but I can't 
remember if that's right, or if it had another name. To use it by 
default, you would put its name on a single line in 
/etc/modules-load.d/anynameatall.conf. I would suggest speakup.conf as 
the filename can be anything with a .conf extension, but that helps 
finding it later. This will load the correct module at boot time.
~Kyle

Re: an old artic transport

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Mark Peveto here,
Where would I find said Module.  More info, please?


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Mon, 8 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Speechd-up is for software speech using speech-dispatcher. Speech-dispatcher
> currently has no code for a hardware speech synthesizer. Your best bet is to
> try to find the correct Speakup driver for your Transport and modprobe it. I'm
> not familiar with the hardware synthesizer modules in Speakup, as I only ever
> used ltlk I think it was and dtk, also a guess, since it's been so long. I
> thought there was a module called txp or txprt or something for the Transport,
> but I can't remember if that's right, or if it had another name. To use it by
> default, you would put its name on a single line in
> /etc/modules-load.d/anynameatall.conf. I would suggest speakup.conf as the
> filename can be anything with a .conf extension, but that helps finding it
> later. This will load the correct module at boot time.
> ~Kyle
>
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Re: an old artic transport

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Try something like
sudo modprobe speakup_<tab>
I think all the Speakup modules now start with speakup_, someone jump in 
here if I have this wrong. If I'm right, that tab at the end should list 
all available Speakup modules.
~Kyle

Re: an old artic transport

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the module is speakup_txprt
kp



On Mon, 8 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Try something like
> sudo modprobe speakup_<tab>
> I think all the Speakup modules now start with speakup_, someone jump in here 
> if I have this wrong. If I'm right, that tab at the end should list all 
> available Speakup modules.
> ~ Kyle
>
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

Re: an old artic transport

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Ah thanks. I was fairly sure all the modules started with speakup_ like 
speakup_soft, and I did indeed recall seeing txprt somewhere, even 
though I never used one. So speakup_txprt it is. Put that on a line by 
itself in /etc/modules-load.d/speakup.conf and you should hear it at 
boot. Just for testing, you should be able to
sudo modprobe speakup_txprt
~Kyle

Re: an old artic transport

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I believe the answer is no.

Still, is there a  module for the  reading edge?
Thanks,
Karen
who has no Linux box with speakup  to check, hence the question.


On Mon, 8 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> the module is speakup_txprt
> kp
>
>
>
> On Mon, 8 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>>  Try something like
>>  sudo modprobe speakup_<tab>
>>  I think all the Speakup modules now start with speakup_, someone jump in
>>  here if I have this wrong. If I'm right, that tab at the end should list
>>  all available Speakup modules.
>> ~  Kyle
>>
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Re: an old artic transport

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So far, I get "fatal: module speakup not found.
Don't know how that is when I'm using speakup.  Darn thing.  There are other messages after this one, though, so maybe there's an answer
I'll go look.


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Mon, 8 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Try something like
> sudo modprobe speakup_<tab>
> I think all the Speakup modules now start with speakup_, someone jump in here
> if I have this wrong. If I'm right, that tab at the end should list all
> available Speakup modules.
> ~Kyle
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

Re: an old artic transport

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Once amazon gets me my serail pord, I'm gonna give it a try.  Cool!


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Mon, 8 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Ah thanks. I was fairly sure all the modules started with speakup_ like
> speakup_soft, and I did indeed recall seeing txprt somewhere, even though I
> never used one. So speakup_txprt it is. Put that on a line by itself in
> /etc/modules-load.d/speakup.conf and you should hear it at boot. Just for
> testing, you should be able to
> sudo modprobe speakup_txprt
> ~Kyle
>
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Re: an old artic transport

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Tony Baechler here.

You first need a kernel package with the latest Speakup patches or you won't 
have any hardware speech. You want the linux-image 4.10.7-2 package. Just 
install it with "sudo dpkg -i linux-image*". It should work fine in Ubuntu, 
but use at your own risk.

http://iavit.org/~bats/kernels/

Second, you add just this single line to /etc/modules:

speakup_txprt

Finally, you make sure there aren't other modules like speakup_soft and you 
disable espeakup, speechd-up, etc from starting. You shouldn't need software 
speech. Reboot and see what happens. If it doesn't work, post here. Look at 
the dmesg output and see if it had an obvious problem. It should start 
talking early in the boot process.

On 5/8/2017 4:54 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Mark Peveto here,
> Where would I find said Module.  More info, please?

Re: an old artic transport

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Mark Peeto here,
Toney,
Every time I try sudo dpkg -i linux-image*, it says no such file or directory.  I've tried tacking the url in your message on th e end of the command, but that didn't work either.  I'm probaby
doing something not quite right, but not sure what.
Sorry for the slow response.  've been out of action the last couple days.  Chemo.  Nuff said.


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Wed, 10 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Tony Baechler here.
>
> You first need a kernel package with the latest Speakup patches or you won't
> have any hardware speech. You want the linux-image 4.10.7-2 package. Just
> install it with "sudo dpkg -i linux-image*". It should work fine in Ubuntu,
> but use at your own risk.
>
> http://iavit.org/~bats/kernels/
>
> Second, you add just this single line to /etc/modules:
>
> speakup_txprt
>
> Finally, you make sure there aren't other modules like speakup_soft and you
> disable espeakup, speechd-up, etc from starting. You shouldn't need software
> speech. Reboot and see what happens. If it doesn't work, post here. Look at
> the dmesg output and see if it had an obvious problem. It should start talking
> early in the boot process.
>
> On 5/8/2017 4:54 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > Mark Peveto here,
> > Where would I find said Module.  More info, please?
>
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Re: an old artic transport

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Mark Peveto here,
I'll come back in the morning and see what responses I get.  I still get errors when I use dpkg -i, no matter what I do.  If OS notes help, running vinux 5.1.

]

Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Wed, 10 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Tony Baechler here.
>
> You first need a kernel package with the latest Speakup patches or you won't
> have any hardware speech. You want the linux-image 4.10.7-2 package. Just
> install it with "sudo dpkg -i linux-image*". It should work fine in Ubuntu,
> but use at your own risk.
>
> http://iavit.org/~bats/kernels/
>
> Second, you add just this single line to /etc/modules:
>
> speakup_txprt
>
> Finally, you make sure there aren't other modules like speakup_soft and you
> disable espeakup, speechd-up, etc from starting. You shouldn't need software
> speech. Reboot and see what happens. If it doesn't work, post here. Look at
> the dmesg output and see if it had an obvious problem. It should start talking
> early in the boot process.
>
> On 5/8/2017 4:54 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > Mark Peveto here,
> > Where would I find said Module.  More info, please?
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

Re: an old artic transport

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Tony Baechler here. I've been out of action due to bad migraines, so I 
understand. The command I gave you was shorthand. You have to fill in the 
full name of the .deb package, making sure you have it downloaded first. You 
have to be root or use sudo. I should be better about giving the full 
command with the full filename, but I assumed people would know this. Again, 
as always, there is no warranty, but it should work fine with Ubuntu and 
Debian derivatives.

On 5/12/2017 3:09 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Mark Peveto here,
> I'll come back in the morning and see what responses I get.  I still get errors when I use dpkg -i, no matter what I do.  If OS notes help, running vinux 5.1.
>
> ]
>
> Mark Peveto
> Registered Linux user number 600552
> Everything happens after coffee!
>
> On Wed, 10 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>> Tony Baechler here.
>>
>> You first need a kernel package with the latest Speakup patches or you won't
>> have any hardware speech. You want the linux-image 4.10.7-2 package. Just
>> install it with "sudo dpkg -i linux-image*". It should work fine in Ubuntu,
>> but use at your own risk.
>>
>> http://iavit.org/~bats/kernels/
>>
>> Second, you add just this single line to /etc/modules:
>>
>> speakup_txprt
>>
>> Finally, you make sure there aren't other modules like speakup_soft and you
>> disable espeakup, speechd-up, etc from starting. You shouldn't need software
>> speech. Reboot and see what happens. If it doesn't work, post here. Look at
>> the dmesg output and see if it had an obvious problem. It should start talking
>> early in the boot process.
>>
>> On 5/8/2017 4:54 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Mark Peveto here,
>>> Where would I find said Module.  More info, please?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>
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another, that ye may be healed. The supplication of a righteous   man 
availeth much in its working. (ASV)

Re: an old artic transport

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Mark Peveto here,

Aha!  Thanks for that.  I'll use wget and get it tomorrow.  I'd try it tonight, but i usually start fuzzing out by about 7:30 or so.  Appreciate it, Toney.


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Sun, 14 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Tony Baechler here. I've been out of action due to bad migraines, so I
> understand. The command I gave you was shorthand. You have to fill in the full
> name of the .deb package, making sure you have it downloaded first. You have
> to be root or use sudo. I should be better about giving the full command with
> the full filename, but I assumed people would know this. Again, as always,
> there is no warranty, but it should work fine with Ubuntu and Debian
> derivatives.
>
> On 5/12/2017 3:09 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > Mark Peveto here,
> > I'll come back in the morning and see what responses I get.  I still get
> > errors when I use dpkg -i, no matter what I do.  If OS notes help, running
> > vinux 5.1.
> >
> > ]
> >
> > Mark Peveto
> > Registered Linux user number 600552
> > Everything happens after coffee!
> >
> > On Wed, 10 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >
> > > Tony Baechler here.
> > >
> > > You first need a kernel package with the latest Speakup patches or you
> > > won't
> > > have any hardware speech. You want the linux-image 4.10.7-2 package. Just
> > > install it with "sudo dpkg -i linux-image*". It should work fine in
> > > Ubuntu,
> > > but use at your own risk.
> > >
> > > http://iavit.org/~bats/kernels/
> > >
> > > Second, you add just this single line to /etc/modules:
> > >
> > > speakup_txprt
> > >
> > > Finally, you make sure there aren't other modules like speakup_soft and
> > > you
> > > disable espeakup, speechd-up, etc from starting. You shouldn't need
> > > software
> > > speech. Reboot and see what happens. If it doesn't work, post here. Look
> > > at
> > > the dmesg output and see if it had an obvious problem. It should start
> > > talking
> > > early in the boot process.
> > >
> > > On 5/8/2017 4:54 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > > > Mark Peveto here,
> > > > Where would I find said Module.  More info, please?
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Blinux-list mailing list
> > > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
>
> --
> James 5:16 Confess therefore your sins one to another, and pray one for
> another, that ye may be healed. The supplication of a righteous   man availeth
> much in its working. (ASV)
>
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Re: an old artic transport

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Mark Peveto here, I just wanted to say publicly...Tony, thanks buddy.  Artic is working perfectly in the console now.  I wish I could get it to work in
the gui, but I'm thrilled with this. I also want to thank everyone for their contributions as far as answers to my questions.  Much of my stuff's
probably trivial to a lot of folks, but yall helped me get this going. Thanks.


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Wed, 10 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Tony Baechler here.
>
> You first need a kernel package with the latest Speakup patches or you won't
> have any hardware speech. You want the linux-image 4.10.7-2 package. Just
> install it with "sudo dpkg -i linux-image*". It should work fine in Ubuntu,
> but use at your own risk.
>
> http://iavit.org/~bats/kernels/
>
> Second, you add just this single line to /etc/modules:
>
> speakup_txprt
>
> Finally, you make sure there aren't other modules like speakup_soft and you
> disable espeakup, speechd-up, etc from starting. You shouldn't need software
> speech. Reboot and see what happens. If it doesn't work, post here. Look at
> the dmesg output and see if it had an obvious problem. It should start talking
> early in the boot process.
>
> On 5/8/2017 4:54 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > Mark Peveto here,
> > Where would I find said Module.  More info, please?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

Re: an old artic transport

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Tony Baechler here.

No thanks are necessary. I have a slight hearing loss and I don't like 
software speech, especially ESpeak in particular. I'm so glad I have a 
DECtalk Express, a Litetalk and a Trippletalk. I wouldn't give up hardware 
speech for the world. As much as I appreciate the thanks, the real credit 
goes to Samuel and the Speakup list. It has been a long road and the journey 
isn't done yet, but it looks like serial support might again work with 
Speakup in the latest kernels. It's just a matter of the patches being 
accepted upstream and entering staging. I can't take any credit for their 
work. I'm most definitely not a programmer. All I do is apply their patches 
to the kernel source and compile. I ran kernel 2.6.32 for years just for 
working hardware speech.

Regarding the GUI, I have bad news. I don't know of a way to use any 
hardware speech. A module for Speech Dispatcher would have to be written, 
but I don't think anyone has done any work in that area. I keep hoping 
someone will as the main reason why I don't switch to Linux and Orca full 
time is due to the lack of hardware speech. In my case, it doesn't matter 
how good software speech is due to my high frequency hearing loss. Nothing 
compares to having real hardware speech. If you ever find a way to get 
hardware speech to work in the GUI, I would be thrilled.

On 5/17/2017 10:46 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Mark Peveto here, I just wanted to say publicly...Tony, thanks buddy.  Artic is working perfectly in the console now.  I wish I could get it to work in
> the gui, but I'm thrilled with this. I also want to thank everyone for their contributions as far as answers to my questions.  Much of my stuff's
> probably trivial to a lot of folks, but yall helped me get this going. Thanks.