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[2606:a000:111a:80d0::89d]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o12sm6613509qke.81.2018.02.27.11.32.00 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:32:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Screen reader advice for a Linux sysadmin To: blinux-list@redhat.com References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 14:31:58 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.38]); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:32:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.38]); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:32:03 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'209.85.216.174' DOMAIN:'mail-qt0-f174.google.com' HELO:'mail-qt0-f174.google.com' FROM:'kyle4jesus@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -0.13 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_PASS) 209.85.216.174 mail-qt0-f174.google.com 209.85.216.174 mail-qt0-f174.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.38 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:32:06 -0000 Why not just ssh into your Linux servers from a Linux terminal? Its ssh capability is far better than anything you can get from a Windows app using their lackluster screen readers. Java apps use the java-atk-bridge to work with Orca, but that's only if you require graphical tools. If not, you can do that from a text terminal as well. That just leaves the Windows servers, and I personally would avoid those like the plague, especially in a business environment. I can't recommend anything good for accessing such things. Really though, Linux has some of the best accessibility tools around for sysadmin tasks, so do give it a shot. If you find NVDA usable, you'll LOVE Orca, as it deals with flat review of the screen rather than NVDA's constructed object navigation, which is foreign even to a power user like me. Imetumwa kutoka kompyuta yangu