From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w1RJsUod031002 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 14:54:30 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id AA79A18C50; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:54:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx05.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.29]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C5522270F for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server2.shellworld.net (server2.shellworld.net [66.172.12.120]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 784572DACD5 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by server2.shellworld.net (Postfix, from userid 1028) id 4B07C8C020C; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server2.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8668C014A for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:47:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:47:30 -0800 To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: Screen reader advice for a Linux sysadmin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Delayed for 00:06:54 by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.29]); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:54:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.29]); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:54:24 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'66.172.12.120' DOMAIN:'server2.shellworld.net' HELO:'server2.shellworld.net' FROM:'chime@hubert-humphrey.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 0 () 66.172.12.120 server2.shellworld.net 66.172.12.120 server2.shellworld.net X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.29 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:54:30 -0000 Well Kathy-and-All, as far as strictly a screen-reader, my all-time favorite was Volcal-Eyes, quite stable. Yes, since 2003 I am running speakup, but with continuing frustrations involving the DecTalk. As far as N V D A the flat review mode was nice, but reading a unix shell was not so intuitive as reading in straigh ahead linux or ajusting highlighting in JAWS. As far as Mac, I was at an Apple store, but I wasn't able to try much inside a unix prompt as permissions were such that I couldn't download other voices. Also, for some reason it was reading alot of "spaces" I guess we really need a replacement for orca which would read as much as actual windows screen-readers. Chime