From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v5N2qxvC007079 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:52:59 -0400 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id A71EF6A747; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx09.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.38]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FBF06A746 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server2.shellworld.net (server2.shellworld.net [66.172.12.120]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5B0C4E4D3 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:52:56 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com D5B0C4E4D3 Authentication-Results: ext-mx09.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=shellworld.net Authentication-Results: ext-mx09.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=klewellen@shellworld.net DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mx1.redhat.com D5B0C4E4D3 Received: by server2.shellworld.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id C02A38C049F; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server2.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB058C03F9 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:52:56 -0400 (EDT) To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: Roku accessibility (was Re: Youtube TV Site?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <636719be-33d7-280d-5265-0d11edc8d1e8@gmail.com> <6663c492-e248-ae6f-ad4e-182ea2b7c4c8@gmail.com> <8d56c90d-18a7-15ae-fc58-66503327f4be@gmail.com> <07dd71b8-93f8-5a50-d141-6e60c2f02061@gmail.com> <5aa3a21c-bed3-594f-a239-bbc800cb74d6@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Delayed for 01:06:48 by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.38]); Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.38]); Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'66.172.12.120' DOMAIN:'server2.shellworld.net' HELO:'server2.shellworld.net' FROM:'klewellen@shellworld.net' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 3.69 *** (BAYES_99, BAYES_999, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD) 66.172.12.120 server2.shellworld.net 66.172.12.120 server2.shellworld.net X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.38 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:52:59 -0000 There is no such thing as most developers. Regardless those doing business in global jurisdictions where wacg 2.0 is incorporated into legal requirements might find themselves in trouble. Now, if a web designer remembers what the word cascading style sheets means, your inability to point might not reflect what i s possible in a truly configured low graphics environment. Or so that has been my personal experience. I can say absolutely firmly that personal applies to me...which is the case for each individual. Karen On Fri, 23 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Considering how hit or miss websites are when it comes to ease of > blind use even in a browser as mainstream and feature rich(arguably to > the point of excess) as Firefox, I'm inclined to believe most > webmasters have made no effort to ensure accessibility and that when a > website is fully accessible, it's as often by accident as by design. I > doubt the average creator of webpages even knows that browsers like > elinks and lynx even exist or even takes the time to ensure there > pages load as intended in mainstream graphical browsers other than the > one they use themselves. > > That said, from what I've tried, I'd have to say currently available > console web browsers leave much to be desired, with even sites that > have never given me problems in Firefox sometimes being unusable in > text-mode browsers assuming I can even figure out how to point the > text-mode browser at a given URl. It's a real shame that even the best > text browsers seem so limited compared to their graphical cousins, > especially since Firefox is the only reason I ever launch an Xsession. > > -- > Sincerely, > > Jeffery Wright > President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa. > Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >