* INSTALLING LINUX OVER THE INTERNET @ Michael Weaver ` Kenny Hitt ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Michael Weaver @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi! Can any flavour of Linux be setup via the Internet? I keep noticing something about Linux and FTP on some of the flavours. Doing it this way might be much more quicker than downloading the files onto my hard drive and burning them onto CDROM which I don't have the facility to do yet as I don't yet have a CD writer. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: INSTALLING LINUX OVER THE INTERNET INSTALLING LINUX OVER THE INTERNET Michael Weaver @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi, I installed my Debian systems by downloading a few floppies and letting the system install from the inter net. Kenny On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 10:28:12PM +0100, Michael Weaver wrote: > Hi! > Can any flavour of Linux be setup via the Internet? > I keep noticing something about Linux and FTP on some of the flavours. > Doing it this way might be much more quicker than downloading the files onto > my hard drive and burning them onto CDROM which I don't have the facility to > do yet as I don't yet have a CD writer. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: INSTALLING LINUX OVER THE INTERNET INSTALLING LINUX OVER THE INTERNET Michael Weaver ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Janina Sajka ` Kenny Hitt 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list We addressed this in early versions of the HOWTO_INSTALL file for the Speakup Modified Red Hat Distribution, but dropped it eventually for the following reason. You can, but you must restart over from the beginning if you lose your connection before the installation completes. On the other hand, you can resume a download from the point of the interruption with a proper download agent like ncftp (available for Windows as well as Linux). Go to: http://www.ncftp.com On Sat, 18 May 2002, Michael Weaver wrote: > Hi! > Can any flavour of Linux be setup via the Internet? > I keep noticing something about Linux and FTP on some of the flavours. > Doing it this way might be much more quicker than downloading the files onto > my hard drive and burning them onto CDROM which I don't have the facility to > do yet as I don't yet have a CD writer. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: INSTALLING LINUX OVER THE INTERNET ` Janina Sajka @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Janina Sajka [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205182242530.1448-100000@toccata.rednote.ne t> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi, I don't know how REDhat does it's inter net install, but Debian doesn't have this problem. If you loose your connection, you just restart the install command and it picks up where it left off. Kenny On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 06:58:40PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > We addressed this in early versions of the HOWTO_INSTALL file for > the Speakup Modified Red Hat Distribution, but dropped it > eventually for the following reason. > > You can, but you must restart over from the beginning if you lose > your connection before the installation completes. On the other > hand, you can resume a download from the point of the > interruption with a proper download agent like ncftp (available > for Windows as well as Linux). Go to: > > http://www.ncftp.com > > On Sat, 18 May 2002, Michael Weaver wrote: > > > Hi! > > Can any flavour of Linux be setup via the Internet? > > I keep noticing something about Linux and FTP on some of the flavours. > > Doing it this way might be much more quicker than downloading the files onto > > my hard drive and burning them onto CDROM which I don't have the facility to > > do yet as I don't yet have a CD writer. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: INSTALLING LINUX OVER THE INTERNET ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Janina Sajka ` L. C. Robinson [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205182242530.1448-100000@toccata.rednote.ne t> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Yes, Debian appears better suited to an install over the net. The Red Hat network installation appears oriented to local networks, not the Internet. It is, nevertheless, all about keeping the connection. So, if you have one that's reliable, it will work over http, ftp, (and nfs). On Sat, 18 May 2002, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi, I don't know how REDhat does it's inter net install, but > Debian doesn't have this problem. If you loose your connection, > you just restart the install command and it picks up where it > left off. > > Kenny > > On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 06:58:40PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > We addressed this in early versions of the HOWTO_INSTALL file for > > the Speakup Modified Red Hat Distribution, but dropped it > > eventually for the following reason. > > > > You can, but you must restart over from the beginning if you lose > > your connection before the installation completes. On the other > > hand, you can resume a download from the point of the > > interruption with a proper download agent like ncftp (available > > for Windows as well as Linux). Go to: > > > > http://www.ncftp.com > > > > On Sat, 18 May 2002, Michael Weaver wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > Can any flavour of Linux be setup via the Internet? > > > I keep noticing something about Linux and FTP on some of the flavours. > > > Doing it this way might be much more quicker than downloading the files onto > > > my hard drive and burning them onto CDROM which I don't have the facility to > > > do yet as I don't yet have a CD writer. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: INSTALLING LINUX OVER THE INTERNET ` Janina Sajka @ ` L. C. Robinson 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: L. C. Robinson @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list On Sat, 18 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > Yes, Debian appears better suited to an install over the net. > The Red Hat network installation appears oriented to local > networks, not the Internet. One can download the images, though, and without writing to CD, can install from a local hard disk containing the images. For details, see http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/install-guide/s1-x86-begininstall-hd.html This, of course, would provide a good alternative for a user without a CD burner. One could also look at some of the many new apt-rpm (apt-get) type utilities that are becoming available for Red Hat, though I haven't really looked at them in terms of installing (is this possible?). > It is, nevertheless, all about keeping the connection. So, if > you have one that's reliable, it will work over http, ftp, (and > nfs). Yes, and as you noted, a utility that can resume the download of a CD image is essential when downloading ISO images. There are some other strategies that could be used, too, that would allow downloading just a base set of rpms, etc, and get up and running, but that would involve, perhaps, a bit more than your average new user would be willing to handle, in terms of complexity. That complexity/expertise could be encapsulated, though, in a script, for more easy accessibility, and could include additional access type installation, including such things as soft speech, and other access technologies. Red Hat has already laid the groundwork for such scripting, with their many installation options, and with kickstart scripting. It should be possible to make a floppy disk image that would ask the user a bunch of questions, autosense much of the hardware, and then automatically download and install everything needed. -- L. C. Robinson reply to no_spam+munged_lcr@onewest.net.invalid ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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* Re: INSTALLING LINUX OVER THE INTERNET [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205182242530.1448-100000@toccata.rednote.ne t> @ ` Brent Harding 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Brent Harding @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Well, I think slackware won't install over the net though. It will over nfs, I think, but I'm not sure if there are nfs servers on the internet to use for this anyways, heard it's a really insecure protocol with tons of exploits, probably suited completely for local use and not on the net. At 10:44 PM 5/18/02 -0400, you wrote: >Yes, Debian appears better suited to an install over the net. The >Red Hat network installation appears oriented to local networks, >not the Internet. > >It is, nevertheless, all about keeping the connection. So, if you >have one that's reliable, it will work over http, ftp, (and nfs). > >On Sat, 18 May 2002, Kenny Hitt wrote: > >> Hi, I don't know how REDhat does it's inter net install, but >> Debian doesn't have this problem. If you loose your connection, >> you just restart the install command and it picks up where it >> left off. >> >> Kenny >> >> On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 06:58:40PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: >> > We addressed this in early versions of the HOWTO_INSTALL file for >> > the Speakup Modified Red Hat Distribution, but dropped it >> > eventually for the following reason. >> > >> > You can, but you must restart over from the beginning if you lose >> > your connection before the installation completes. On the other >> > hand, you can resume a download from the point of the >> > interruption with a proper download agent like ncftp (available >> > for Windows as well as Linux). Go to: >> > >> > http://www.ncftp.com >> > >> > On Sat, 18 May 2002, Michael Weaver wrote: >> > >> > > Hi! >> > > Can any flavour of Linux be setup via the Internet? >> > > I keep noticing something about Linux and FTP on some of the flavours. >> > > Doing it this way might be much more quicker than downloading the files onto >> > > my hard drive and burning them onto CDROM which I don't have the facility to >> > > do yet as I don't yet have a CD writer. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Blinux-list mailing list >> > > Blinux-list@redhat.com >> > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Janina Sajka, Director >> > Technology Research and Development >> > Governmental Relations Group >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) >> > >> > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 >> > >> > Chair, Accessibility SIG >> > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) >> > http://www.openebook.org >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Blinux-list mailing list >> > Blinux-list@redhat.com >> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > >-- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > >Chair, Accessibility SIG >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) >http://www.openebook.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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