Bookshare.org and SSL

Bookshare.org and SSL

[John J. Boyer]

Hello,
I have been told that to download books from bookshare.org one needs a
browser that uses SSL. This means that Lynx cannot be used. Is there a
text-mode Linux browser that does use SSL? I would hate to have to use
Internet Explorer.
Thanks.
John


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Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Henry Yen]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:12:40AM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote:
> Hello,
> I have been told that to download books from bookshare.org one needs a
> browser that uses SSL. This means that Lynx cannot be used. Is there a
> text-mode Linux browser that does use SSL? I would hate to have to use
> Internet Explorer.

SSL can be compiled into Lynx.  I haven't done it myself, but i use
SSL-enabled Lynx every day.
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Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Nicolas Pitre]

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, John J. Boyer wrote:

> Hello,
> I have been told that to download books from bookshare.org one needs a
> browser that uses SSL. This means that Lynx cannot be used.

The lynx version that comes with Red Hat 7.2 perfectly uses ssl.


Nicolas

RE: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Dave Hunt]

Why not install OpenSSL, and patch your copy of Lynx?  The current OpenSSL
will handle 128-byt encryption.

-Dave


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Hello,
I have been told that to download books from bookshare.org one needs a
browser that uses SSL. This means that Lynx cannot be used. Is there a
text-mode Linux browser that does use SSL? I would hate to have to use
Internet Explorer.
Thanks.
John


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Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[John J. Boyer]

Nicolas,
That is good news.
Thanks.
John
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Nicolas Pitre wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, John J. Boyer wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I have been told that to download books from bookshare.org one needs a
> > browser that uses SSL. This means that Lynx cannot be used.
>
> The lynx version that comes with Red Hat 7.2 perfectly uses ssl.
>
>
> Nicolas
>
>
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Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[A. R. Vener]

SSL has been supported in lynx since version 2.8.4. When compiling it
you need to include the use-ssl settings as described in the SSL file
that is included with the package. You also need to have openssl installed
on your system.

rudy

Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi John.
Your information is incorrect; lynx-ssl has used ssl for quite some time now.
Just make sure you have lynx-ssl and not just lynx.

Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Buddy Brannan]

There's no reason lynx can't be used.

Unless you get the version of lynx without SSL support, lynx has SSL
support. I don't know 'bout Redhat, but Debian has a lynx-ssl package,
and of course compiling from source will net you SSL support as
well. Bear in mind that whatever you do, you'll need the OpenSSL
packages, too.
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Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Cheryl Homiak]

I don't know how redhat works, but on debian we can just download a precompiled
lynx-ssl.
I did compile it once when I was using zipspeak; it can be done but there can be
snags in compiling it.
If you can get it precompiled as an already done package, by all means do so.

Re: Bookshare.org and SSLi

[Janina Sajka]

John:

You're getting bad information. SSL is well supported in Lynx, and is probably already functioning properly on your system. 

What is not yet available is linux technology to unpack the files you download from BookShare. If anyone is interested in writing that software,
BookShare would like to talk with you.

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, John J. Boyer wrote:

> Hello,
> I have been told that to download books from bookshare.org one needs a
> browser that uses SSL. This means that Lynx cannot be used. Is there a
> text-mode Linux browser that does use SSL? I would hate to have to use
> Internet Explorer.
> Thanks.
> John
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Janina Sajka]

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, A. R. Vener wrote:

> SSL has been supported in lynx since version 2.8.4.

Actually, it was supported even before that, but you had to get a separate patch. What changed is the U.S. export restrictions on encryption which
allowed the lynx developers to support SSL directly in the lynx source. 

Amazing to me how old news hangs around like today's truth. We're talking about a change made during the Clinton Administration, folks.

Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Janina Sajka]

Buddy:

I don't think there's such a thing as a version of lynx without SSL support. The lynx developers where never willing to have different versions, which
is why one had to go elsewhere and get a separate patch in the old days of the export restriction on crypto. Once Clinton lifted those restrictions, SSL
was in the lynx source about as fast as you could say Monica.

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> There's no reason lynx can't be used.
> 
> Unless you get the version of lynx without SSL support, lynx has SSL
> support. I don't know 'bout Redhat, but Debian has a lynx-ssl package,
> and of course compiling from source will net you SSL support as
> well. Bear in mind that whatever you do, you'll need the OpenSSL
> packages, too.
> 

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Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Cheryl Homiak]

Yes there is such a thing as with and without ssl support.
On debian, you can get a lynx package or a lynx-ssl package. Only they used to
use different configuration files and now they don't. It's a conflict anyway; if
you install one, the other gets removed but the .cfg file stays the same.

Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Janina Sajka]

OK, so that's hosw Debian packages it. But there's but one lynx source tree. One compiles with the --with-ssl switch, or one does not. If that's worth
two separate packages, I sure don't mind. But let's not call that two separate lynx distributions. It's time for this confusion to stop. Three years is
enough.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> Yes there is such a thing as with and without ssl support.
> On debian, you can get a lynx package or a lynx-ssl package. Only they used to
> use different configuration files and now they don't. It's a conflict anyway; if
> you install one, the other gets removed but the .cfg file stays the same.
> 
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Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Cheryl Homiak]

Ok, so there is only one lynx tree. I don't think most people are arguing that.
However, if you aren't compiling, if you are downloading a package, it's
important to know that you have a possibility of two different packages. And
since John, using redhat, thought ssl didn't work with lynx, I don't know if
that's because his package doesn't support it or because he just stayed away
from ssl sites on the assumption he couldn't use them.
In at least one, and maybe more, distributions, there are two different lynx
_packages_.

Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Janina Sajka]

Somebody gave John bad information. Several people on this list continued to give him bad information. That's just not helpful.

PS: There is only one rpm in the Red Hat distribution. It contains SSL support by default. Do you know what the Debian rationale is for having two
packages? One with, and the other withoutSSL? I don't understand it, frankly.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> Ok, so there is only one lynx tree. I don't think most people are arguing that.
> However, if you aren't compiling, if you are downloading a package, it's
> important to know that you have a possibility of two different packages. And
> since John, using redhat, thought ssl didn't work with lynx, I don't know if
> that's because his package doesn't support it or because he just stayed away
> from ssl sites on the assumption he couldn't use them.
> In at least one, and maybe more, distributions, there are two different lynx
> _packages_.
> 
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Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Luke Davis]

If your lynx can not use SSL, you need a more resent copy.  It has done
SSL for years.


On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, John J. Boyer wrote:

> Hello,
> I have been told that to download books from bookshare.org one needs a
> browser that uses SSL. This means that Lynx cannot be used. Is there a
> text-mode Linux browser that does use SSL? I would hate to have to use
> Internet Explorer.
> Thanks.
> John
>
>
>

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Re: Bookshare.org and SSL

[Cheryl Homiak]

I have no idea.