From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF473ECDF for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fB6Ff3p29551 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:41:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fB6Ff2Q29659 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:41:02 -0500 Received: from fep07-app.kolumbus.fi (fep07-1.kolumbus.fi [193.229.5.107]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fB6Ff1w29655 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:41:02 -0500 Received: from thp.local ([62.248.143.78]) by fep07-app.kolumbus.fi (InterMail vM.5.01.03.08 201-253-122-118-108-20010628) with SMTP id <20011206154047.KXUQ641.fep07-app.kolumbus.fi@thp.local> for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:40:47 +0200 Received: (qmail 13420 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 15:40:59 -0000 Received: from nkl.local (qmailr@192.168.2.4) by gw.local with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 15:40:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 9509 invoked by uid 1013); 6 Dec 2001 15:40:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 15:40:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:40:52 +0200 (EET) From: Ari Moisio X-X-Sender: armoi@nkl.local Cc: emacspeak@cs.vassar.edu, Blinux-list Subject: Re: some comments on software platform accessibility In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-PGP-KeyID: 0x3FAF0F05 X-PGP-Key-fingerprint: 8A 91 96 E2 98 64 D0 4D 57 5E 3E EE 72 E9 DD D2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Reply-To: armoi@sci.fi List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! Comments on comments: First there is lot of job opportunities within file, mail and webserver maintenance. MOst of those use some *x operating system. Most of those have no configuration interface, just a bunch of text files to edit. No menus, no buttons, no dialogues, no bitmaps, no images and no accessibility problems. Secondly: ever after learnign windows and all tricks of his/her screenreader with every program used blind worker should be equally or more productive than sighted colleagues who can sinply look the screen. This difference exists of ccourse in *x environment too but there it is mainly reading speed, not figuring layout of the screen. As a sidenote: local training center for the blind planned to keep course on Linux but they had severe problems to find a teacher; all blind advanced LInux users they askedwere too busy with their own jobs. Fortunately they found finally one who volunteered because it was Linux course. -- Mr. Ari Moisio, Niittykatu 7, 41160 Tikkakoski, +358-40-5055239 ari.moisio@iki.fi http://www.iki.fi/arimo PGP-keyID: 0x3FAF0F05